# Another installment of: Who Is/Was That Person?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 23, 2014, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341 "2014-03-23T05:32:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/141 "2014-04-13T21:47:16Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> 1. J. Fred Muggs

chimp that used to appear with Dave Garroway on the Today Show

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> 1. Durwood Kirby

announcer and sidekick on the Garry Moore show. Threatened to sue The Bullwinkle Show because Rocky and Bullwinkle were looking for someone named Kirwood Derby.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/142 "2014-04-13T22:20:45Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> someone named Kirwood Derby.

Not exactly. The Kirwood Derby was a hat that made its wearer the smartest person alive.

Further trivia: J. Fred Muggs’ partner, a female chimp, was named [Phoebe B. Beebe.](http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/3/22/1363981320075/J-Fred-Muggs-with-Dave-Ga-008.jpg)

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/143 "2014-04-13T22:37:09Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> 1. Author of “Hidden Persuaders,” about advertisers’ manipulation of consumers
> 2. Journalist, won a libel suit against Westbrook Pegler  
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Pegler said that Reynolds “had an overhanging belly filled with something other than guts” and that Reynolds “proposed to Heywood Broun’s widow on the way from Broun’s grave”! Reynolds won the suit, for $175,001.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/144 "2014-04-13T22:43:11Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> 1. J. Fred Muggs
> 2. Durwood Kirby
> 3. Jack Pearl
> 4. Charles George Gordon
> 5. William Dawes

1. Jack Pearl was a radio comedian who would ask people, “Wanna buy a duck?”

Leftovers:

Takeshi Takarabe was a pre-WWII chief admiral of the Japanese Navy.

From Kermit Schafer again: an interviewer asked him:  
“Tommy, you’ve been married eight or nine times. How do you remember your wives?”  
Manville answered, “Oh, I remember them by the parts I like best!”

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/145 "2014-04-13T22:52:17Z")

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1. William Dawes  
Made a midnight ride with Paul Revere.  
Re: Maria Goretti, murdered around the age of 11. She is thought to be the only Roman Catholic saint whose canonization service was attended by her mother.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/146 "2014-04-13T23:16:00Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> 1. Jack Pearl was a radio comedian who would ask people, “Wanna buy a duck?”

No, that was [Joe Penner](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Penner), whose other catchphrase was “You _naaasty_ man!”

[Jack Pearl](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Pearl) was a comic best known for his “Baron Munchausen” character, and the catchphrase [“Vas _you_ dere, Sharlie?”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3FPleejIEg) (My father used to use this one.)

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/147 "2014-04-13T23:31:55Z")

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Leon Hart played End (TE/WR/flanker sort of thing?) for Notre Dame, winning the Heisman trophy.

Charles George Gordon, Lord Byron.

John Facenda, the “Voice of God”…and NFL films. From Philadelphia.

A Sarnoff founded RCA, but I don’t know about the Bobby part.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/148 "2014-04-13T23:43:48Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> No, that was [Joe Penner](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Penner), whose other catchphrase was “You _naaasty_ man!”
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> [Jack Pearl](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Pearl) was a comic best known for his “Baron Munchausen” character, and the catchphrase [“Vas _you_ dere, Sharlie?”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3FPleejIEg) (My father used to use this one.)

MEA CULPA!! :o I should have known better. You are right.

Remember who said, “Who’s Yahoodi?”

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**Author:** ![Harg\_Fargusen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/da6949/32.png) [@Harg\_Fargusen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harg_Fargusen)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/149 "2014-04-13T23:49:43Z")

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1. Bela Blasko

2. Creighton Tull Chaney

3. William Henry Pratt

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/150 "2014-04-14T00:19:16Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> Charles George Gordon, Lord Byron.

No, he was George Gordon Byron.

> [@Harg\_Fargusen](#):
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> 1. William Henry Pratt

Boris Karloff

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/151 "2014-04-14T00:58:33Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Boris Karloff

Well, with that hint…i’ll guess Bela Lugosi and Lon Chaney for the other two.

Low-hanging fruit tastes the sweetest.

ETA: I wrote that last sentence because it sounded good and I hoped it was true. But according to [this](http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/sweet-fruits), it isn’t.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/152 "2014-04-14T01:15:26Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> 1. Charles George Gordon

1. British general, known as “Chinese” Gordon, killed in the siege of Khartoum

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/153 "2014-04-14T02:38:16Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> 1. British general, known as “Chinese” Gordon, killed in the siege of Khartoum

Right. With that I’ll ID my #104, since his story is tied up with that of Gordon.

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> 1. Eduard Schnitzer, aka Emin Pasha

[German doctor and naturalist.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emin_Pasha) Governor of the province of Equatoria in southern Sudan when he was cut off by the Mahdi’s rebellion (in which Gordon died). “Rescued” by Henry Morton Stanley in an expedition up the Congo in which 2/3 of the party died, even though he didn’t want to be rescued.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/154 "2014-04-14T05:10:58Z")

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Another bunch:

1. Jerry Colonna (he’s the one who would mention Yahoodi)
2. Herb Washington
3. Jacob Javits
4. Josif Vissiaronovich Dzugashvili
5. Cassie Davis
6. Lauren Hutton
7. Miss Toni Fisher
8. Sergio Aragones Domenech
9. Harlan Fiske Stone
10. Charles Goren
11. Janet Guthrie
12. Ja’net DuBois

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/155 "2014-04-14T05:26:11Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> 1. Jerry Colonna (he’s the one who would mention Yahoodi)

Comic with a big moustache and googly eyes, Bob Hope sidekick.

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> 1. Jacob Javits

Longtime Senator from New York

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> 1. Josif Vissiaronovich Dzugashvili

Better known as Joseph Stalin.

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> 1. Sergio Aragones Domenech

_Mad_ cartoonist, _Spy vs Spy_

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> 1. Harlan Fiske Stone

Supreme Court judge

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> 1. Charles Goren

Bridge expert and columnist.

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/156 "2014-04-14T05:26:40Z")

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1. Herb Washington  
designated base runner for Oakland A’s in the 1970s

2. Jacob Javits  
long-time US Senator from New York

3. Josif Vissiaronovich Dzugashvili  
Joseph Stalin

4. Lauren Hutton  
model and actress

5. Sergio Aragones Domenech  
another Mad magazine artist

6. Harlan Fiske Stone  
Supreme Court Justice

7. Charles Goren  
Bridge maven [the card game]

8. Janet Guthrie  
first female Indy 500 racer

9. Ja’net DuBois  
played Winnoa on TV show Good Times

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/157 "2014-04-14T08:51:24Z")

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Calling “time’s up” on a couple after 48 hours…

Joyce Johnson was Jack Kerouac’s girlfriend and an award-winning author herself (granted, it was for writing about having been Jack Kerouac’s girlfriend). Checking her Wikipedia page, it seems that I’ve met her son.

Laura Zametkin (maiden name) was better known as Laura Z. Hobson, author of _Gentleman’s Agreement_.

Btw, Sergio Aragones drew the marginal cartoons, among other features, in MAD, but the Spy vs. Spy guy was Antonio Prohias.

1. Jack Cole
2. Sax Rohmer
3. Ernest Dowson

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/158 "2014-04-14T11:26:53Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> 1. Sax Rohmer

Creator of Fu Manchu

1. Bill Roberts (since it may be a fairly common name, I’ll give what he was famous for was circa 1955)

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/159 "2014-04-14T13:00:33Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> 1. Miss Toni Fisher

1. Singer; big hit was “The Big Hurt”

[QUOTE=AppallingGael]

1. Ernest Dowson

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1. Poet; Margaret Mitchell took the phrase “Gone with the Wind” from one of his works

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-installment-of-who-is-was-that-person/684341/160 "2014-04-14T13:06:53Z")

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> [@5\_time\_champ](#):
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> Re: Maria Goretti, murdered around the age of 11. She is thought to be the only Roman Catholic saint whose canonization service was attended by her mother.

Her canonization was also attended by her murderer (who had gotten religion and after his release from prison became a lay brother at a monestary) which has to be a pretty rare event as well.

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