No, but both my father and stepfather were. You can take the boy out of Joisey, but you can’t take the Joisey out of the boy…
I’m assuming that cities named Rome were not named for the contemporaneous Italian capital, but for the seat of the Roman Empire, analogous to Troy, Carthage, etc. And any early settlers to any such latter-day Rome would likely name Julius Caesar if asked for a famous Roman. So, by extension, familiarity with Julius Caesar would be a fairly direct link to the naming of Romes in Georgia, New York, and elsewhere.
There you have Julian Alps. And probably Julian March of the same region is also named after him.
Score! Best one yet.
I don’t think that’s a fair assumption. The US is full of cities named after modern European cities of no great import. For example, I live in Oviedo, Florida. Of course, you could say that cities named are English and Spanish places are different, but we also have Paris, Texas, Cairo, Georgia, Naples in Florida, Athens in Illinois, Delhi in California, and innumerable small towns like Moscow, Kansas. Lima, Ohio, is reputedly named for the one in Peru because Peruvian quinine helped stave off a malaria epidemic there.
And let us all say: “…”
Bit of a distinction without a difference, surely? The same city has at different times been the seat of the Empire and the capital of Italy. This is a bit like suggesting that the state of Washington is named after Washington the general in the Continental Army rather than Washington the President of the United States.
This is probably related to their age/time in office.
Julius was ruler of Rome for only about 4.5 years before his death, and for about 3 years of that he was fighting a Civil War to retain his power, and was away from Rome. He died at age 55.
Augustus ruled for over 40 years (the longest of any Roman ruler) and died at age 75.
He was around and ‘First Citizen’ for a whole lot longer, to have things named after him.
Actually, Theodosius II, who ruled the Eastern Empire from 408 to 450, has Augustus beat by a hair for longest reign. And that despite dying at age 49, as he became emperor as a kid. He could plausibly have stuck around for another 20 years, but I guess he figured: “Well, got Augustus beat, I guess I can fall off my horse and die now.”
Unless you want to exclude Theo II on the technicality of being an Eastern emperor post-395, in which case I say: Good for you, 'cause he really annoys me. Apart from giving his name to the Theodosian Walls and the Theodosian Code, ruling for a long time was the only thing he ever did. He was mostly a figurehead, with others pulling the strings.
And, yes, that kind of nitpickery is why I’m such great fun on dates. Although maybe it’ll come in useful for someone on a pub quiz one day.
I laughed.
Why do we pronounce Caesar as if it starts with an s rather than a k, like kaiser, as in many instances of Latin words starting with c? I may have covered that in 9th or 10th grade Latin but I ‘fergit’, after so many decades.
That “ae” was recast as “e” in many English words of learned Latin or Greek origin, some earlier and some later (you saw “encyclopaedia” until pretty recently). “Caesar” kept the original spelling, but went along with the trend for pronunciation – and in English “ce” is always pronounced with an “s” sound. In Spanish, they did the same thing, but spell it as it’s now pronounced (“César”).
PS. It happened in Italian, too – note how the Latin -ae plural ending for feminine nouns became -e in Italian.
In Italian, “c” is pronounced like English “ch” before “e,” hence “Cesare” = CHEZZ-array. (I remember finding this out when I was around ten years old and saw the film The Idolmaker).
He persecuted the Nestorians pretty good, too. You’re right, though. He was no Theodosius I.
And if you want to nitpick, Constantine VII was emperor for 51 years.
Oh, right.
Well, I usually stop paying attention to the Byzantines somewhere around the middle of seventh century.
¡Ay madre! You’re lucky I’m not ovetense! Calling Oviedo, capital of Asturias, the kingdom which eventually became León and from León Castille, “unimportant”!
Only because a city isn’t particularly important now doesn’t mean it’s never been. I mean, yes, Oviedo (Fl) probably got founded by an ovetense who happened to pass by, but still… don’t go to the original saying it’s “of no great import” if you want to be able to get service at the local restaurants.
So an inhabitant of Oviedo (Spain) is an “Ovetense”? The things you learn on the Straight Dope… !
Yeah, I misread that as “overtense.” I though at first Nava was saying: “Lucky for you I’m not too wound up today! If I weren’t feeling so relaxed, I’d really rip you a new one!”.
To be accurate, “folk etymology” meas changing the pronunciation/spelling of an unfamiliar word to match the spelling/pronunciation of a familiar word (that may have no connection). Some examples include “turtle” (originally a bird) and “isenglass.”
So there was some town naming guy, and not the inhabitants, who chose the town names?