# Another Liberal Pitting

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 7, 2007, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799 "2007-08-07T21:33:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/81 "2007-08-09T05:09:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
I wasn’t going to jump in here, but jeezus, you have the nerve to use that embarrassing and sickening little stunt as a bonafide now? Truly pathetic and a new low even for you. There aren’t enough :rolleyes: s to cover my feelings about you at this point, **Liberal**. Maybe expermenting with the ignore feature will be worth the trouble.  
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I’ll admit that his bet was circumspect to say the least, but the other party had to agree that it was worth it to accept the bet. If anyone offered me $500 to stay away from the board, I’d take it, and I’d think about being made to leave all the damn time. Perhaps that was a part of **Lib’s** reasoning, perhaps not. The other party was free to reject the deal. Were they at fault for selling out?

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/82 "2007-08-09T05:13:04Z")

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[QUOTE=dnooman]  
I’ll admit that his bet was circumspect to say the least, but the other party had to agree that it was worth it to accept the bet. If anyone offered me $500 to stay away from the board, I’d take it, and I’d think about being made to leave all the damn time. Perhaps that was a part of **Lib’s** reasoning, perhaps not. The other party was free to reject the deal. Were they at fault for selling out?  
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I really, really don’t want to dredge that whole bullshit up again, and it wasn’t me who did, it was Lib, of course. And THAT is my beef at this point-- not that it happened, which is over and done with, but that Lib is citing it as a point of pride here, when really it was a clusterfuck and an embarrassment. That’s my opinion, no surprise to anyone who followed that whole sordid mess. I’d like to let it drop, but obviously it gives Lib a hard-on to think about how he paid off his nemesis to leave here and to mention it as if it were something good he did. I wish he’d STFU about it.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/83 "2007-08-09T05:38:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
I really, really don’t want to dredge that whole bullshit up again, and it wasn’t me who did, it was Lib, of course. And THAT is my beef at this point-- not that it happened, which is over and done with, but that Lib is citing it as a point of pride here, when really it was a clusterfuck and an embarrassment. That’s my opinion, no surprise to anyone who followed that whole sordid mess. I’d like to let it drop, but obviously it gives Lib a hard-on to think about how he paid off his nemesis to leave here and to mention it as if it were something good he did. I wish he’d STFU about it.  
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Ok. I agree with you for the most part, but it takes two to make such a deal. **Lib** is, IMO not vindicated in his actions, _but_ his rival _did_ agree to the deal. How is he not also culpable?

Objectively **Lib** got what he wanted. Was it ethical, necessary or even warranted? No. The fact remains that both parties agreed on the deal, as did the intermediary. He would have nothing to brag about if the other party did not agree to the deal. If **Lib** did a bad thing by making the wager, didn’t his rival justify the action by fulfilling the obligations of the wager?

I’m just playing Devil’s advocate here. I don’t think that what **Lib** did was sporting in the realm of message boards, but it happened. There is only one person who is responsible for making his bribe an entity. That being the other person involved.

**Lib** can, and has, manufactured numerous reasons for people to pit him. He seems to like it, in fact he seems to _try_ to get people to pit him. The guy needs attention and sometimes he’s willing to pay through the nose in order to get it. Whatever. His payoff was MUCH more of a public cry for attention than he would like to admit. He could have easily made such a transaction via PMs, but that would result in less attention for him.

I understand your indignation, but you have to realize that any controversy that results from his actions, is fuel for his fire.

He is, and will always be, an attention whore. Fine. People that find it funny can and do post in response to him, but people that want him to shut up would be best served by simply _ignoring him_. I’m not suggesting an add to your ignore list (that’s against the rules), just don’t reply to his inane threads. That’s not hard to do.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/84 "2007-08-09T05:57:42Z")

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[QUOTE=dnooman]  
Ok. I agree with you for the most part, but it takes two to make such a deal. **Lib** is, IMO not vindicated in his actions, _but_ his rival _did_ agree to the deal. How is he not also culpable?  
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Culpability is not the issue I’m addressing. It’s the bragging and gloating I object to. As if he won something or is some sort of righteous bad ass. Please.

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> I understand your indignation, but you have to realize that any controversy that results from his actions, is fuel for his fire.

You are correct, and I don’t generally address him or his inanity. I wouldn’t have commented in this thread about his more of the same idiocy, but the tough-guy boasting got to me. Say what you want about PRR, he’s certainly not around to toot his own horn about that deal.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/85 "2007-08-09T09:17:44Z")

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[QUOTE=askeptic]  
When you actually pay the money post the receipt, Drama Queen.

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Lib, I apologize.  
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Apology accepted. Blessed are the peacemakers and all that. 🙂

[Quote=Stranger]  
The whole argument reminds me of a man complaining how bad the food is here, “And the portions are too small, too!”  
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One of the many examples of your analogical acuity and its superiority to my own.

> [@Tris](#):
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> I hope no one is listing this as an “all about me” thread by Liberal. He didn’t start it, and really hasn’t participated in it nearly as much as some.

That’s what’s so fucking hillarious. One by one, the usual suspects come out on stage, rend their garments in twain, look toward the heavens and shout, “Oh my god of mercy and justice! I cannot bear to look upon his words! He’s such a drama queen!”

😃

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/86 "2007-08-09T09:26:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
It’s the bragging and gloating I object to.  
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Correcting the record is not bragging, dear. You should go to work for the Bush Administration. They’re masters at fabricating the same sort of spin when they attack someone and that person responds.

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**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/87 "2007-08-09T09:34:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Correcting the record is not bragging, dear. You should go to work for the Bush Administration. They’re masters at fabricating the same sort of spin when they attack someone and that person responds.  
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Translation: When the young pink baby weeps in the morning, I will hold the latern of darkness for it’s soul. Wailing hounds, tearing at flesh while nothing is done. Spiral towards the sun, consuming itself.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/88 "2007-08-09T09:37:24Z")

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[QUOTE=stretch to Stanger]  
Have you tried the ignore feature? It ruins my enjoyment of the board.  
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Well, boo-fucking-hoo. You ruin my enjoyment too, but I don’t demand that you stop posting. Stop being such a fucking crybaby. It’s not your board, where everybody needs to post a certain way to mollify you. Again, fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/89 "2007-08-09T12:05:22Z")

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No, seriously, when was the “fun, witty” part?

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**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/90 "2007-08-09T16:13:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Well, boo-fucking-hoo. You ruin my enjoyment too, but I don’t demand that you stop posting. Stop being such a fucking crybaby. It’s not your board, where everybody needs to post a certain way to mollify you. Again, fuck off.  
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I didn’t demand you stop posting, I asked that you stop posting like an asshole. There is a distinction, though why I would believe you’d see it is puzzling, I agree.

And again, fuck right off, Lib. You’ve train-wrecked a number of threads that some of us would have like to keep on track. You are a blight on this board…didn’t always used to be this way, but now, I’d just as soon not have to read your bullshit.

Please feel free to see me as someone who persecutes you–I’m sure you need the wood for your cross more than the anyone else might need a fire.

ETA:

> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> No, seriously, when was the “fun, witty” part?

Fun? Maybe. Witty? Not to sure I remember those posts.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/91 "2007-08-09T16:28:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Correcting the record is not bragging, dear. You should go to work for the Bush Administration. They’re masters at fabricating the same sort of spin when they attack someone and that person responds.  
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You weren’t correcting any record. You were telling all those people who don’t like you that when YOU don’t like someone, YOU pay them off to go away, ie., you put your money where your mouth is, heh, so there. That is bragging about something you should be ashamed of IMO. Your likening of me to the Bush administration is just more of your idiotic blathering and I’ll ignore it like I should ignore you.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/92 "2007-08-09T17:03:24Z")

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Hell, I didn’t even get an offer!

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/93 "2007-08-09T17:07:45Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Hell, I didn’t even get an offer!  
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Here’s an offer, since you are a pretty burly (from a cognitively imposing standpoint) poster: You pay me $20 and you can leave the board.

I learned that one from a Florida Congressman.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/94 "2007-08-09T17:12:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
No, seriously, when was the “fun, witty” part?  
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Yeah, I may have to re-think that. Definitely not in evidence in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2007, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberal-pitting/414799/95 "2007-08-09T17:42:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
I’m okay now. The problem has been resolved. Sorry about annoying you.  
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I dunno - this made me laugh out loud. I’m now suspecting **Liberal** of having a very subtle sense of humour. He doesn’t ruin my enjoyment here any more than anyone else does. If his post is crap, I move on to the next one.

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