# Another Mass Shooting (San Bernardino)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 2, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242 "2015-12-02T19:58:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/41 "2015-12-02T21:12:12Z")

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> [@davida03801](#):
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> That is just the type of pejorative racist comment we need to avoid.
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> Please be kind and not make any assumptions on a 3 man heavily armed shooting team dressed in black wearing masks.

Just how the hell us that comment racist? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/42 "2015-12-02T21:13:13Z")

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Or woosh 😕

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/43 "2015-12-02T21:13:55Z")

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And here I was worried about ISIS and Syrian refugees…

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/44 "2015-12-02T21:14:21Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> We don’t yet know all the facts but it is worth noting that when shootings like this happen it is sometimes the case that witnesses report multiple shooters when in fact there is only one.

Very true. Many of the initial reports will probably turn out to be completely false. The authorities are going to be much more interested in working through the situation than making sure the news reports are accurate.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/45 "2015-12-02T21:15:27Z")

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KABC television is reporting 12 fatalities.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/46 "2015-12-02T21:17:58Z")

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Hard to tell what’s going on, though

Reddit live thread

> **[San Bernardino Shooting](https://www.reddit.com/live/w0nn1o5hu90y)**
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> 14 confirmed dead, 17 injured. Two suspects confirmed dead, 1 male & 1 female. 3rd suspect detained, unsure if related.

> [@](#):
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> CORRECTION: A witness at Roberts Elementary reported a camouflaged middle-eastern man with a beard wearing a headset at the Waterman Discount Mall - possibly armed.

So probably an Indian woman wearing a sari and a Jawbone and carrying some celery.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/47 "2015-12-02T21:26:36Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Very true. Many of the initial reports will probably turn out to be completely false. The authorities are going to be much more interested in working through the situation than making sure the news reports are accurate.

I, and maybe we, should defer to the experience of a professional.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/48 "2015-12-02T21:30:16Z")

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They’re saying that witnesses reported seeing the 3 gunmen get into a black SUV and drive away, and that the police had to evacuate to deal with a “suspicous device.” I’m guessing that the device was a decoy meant to keep the cops busy (freaking out about a bomb) while they got away.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/49 "2015-12-02T21:34:51Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> And here I was worried about ISIS and Syrian refugees…

American terrorists are by far the bigger threat.

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**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/50 "2015-12-02T21:37:03Z")

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It’s incredibly hard to resist trying to guess who’s behind it …

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/51 "2015-12-02T21:54:06Z")

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All the area schools are on lock down. Mass transit is suspended. We’ve just been told to hold all of our 5th period students through 6th period, just as a precaution since the suspects are still at large. We’re 10 miles away, so I can imagine what the San Bernardino schools are going through.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/52 "2015-12-02T21:56:25Z")

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San Bernardino Sheriff just reported “upwards of 14 people dead, upwards of 14 people wounded.”

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/53 "2015-12-02T21:56:34Z")

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Police news conference going on now. Saying 14 dead and 14 wounded.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/54 "2015-12-02T21:56:47Z")

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Press conference just said “upwards of 14 people dead” and upwards of 14 more injured.

ETA: The San Bernardino Police Chief said that.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/55 "2015-12-02T21:57:27Z")

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Obama keeps responding to these incidents by blathering about people on the no-fly list being able to buy guns–as if that had anything to do with it. Some of us remember when Senator Kennedy was on the no-fly list for a little while.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/56 "2015-12-02T22:00:35Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> Obama keeps responding to these incidents by blathering about people on the no-fly list being able to buy guns–as if that had anything to do with it. Some of us remember when Senator Kennedy was on the no-fly list for a little while.

This is not the pit, and we were told not to make this about gun control.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/57 "2015-12-02T22:02:59Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> Obama keeps responding to these incidents by blathering about people on the no-fly list being able to buy guns–as if that had anything to do with it. Some of us remember when Senator Kennedy was on the no-fly list for a little while.

Yeah, the Kennedys would be pissed if they couldn’t buy assault rifles.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/58 "2015-12-02T22:03:07Z")

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They’re clarifying that the “14 wounded” means 14 people with significant injuries possibly related to gunshots. There may have been additional people wounded by falling/running/etc.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/59 "2015-12-02T22:11:18Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> [Story here](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-up-to-20-shot-in-san-bernardino-active-shooter-sought-20151202-story.html)
> 
> Apparently the police are looking for 3 active heavily-armed shooters. Why they would do this to a disabled services center boggles the mind.

For the same reason people have done this in places like churches, Gurdwaras, elementary schools, McDonald’s, etc.

Because they can.

☹ :mad:

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/60 "2015-12-02T22:15:32Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> For the same reason people have done this in places like churches, Gurdwaras, elementary schools, McDonald’s, etc.
> 
> Because they can.
> 
> ☹ :mad:

Plus movie theaters, universities, airport terminals (LAX) shopping malls…

Anyone else want to add to this list?

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