# Another Mass Shooting (San Bernardino) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 2, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242 "2015-12-02T19:58:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/101 "2015-12-03T01:39:51Z")
Watching the live news conferance right now. One male and one female are dead in the vehicle. Third suspect is at large. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/102 "2015-12-03T01:40:57Z")
This shit isn’t going to end until the fucking press stops giving these assholes nonstop coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/103 "2015-12-03T01:43:23Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > This shit isn’t going to end until the fucking press stops giving these assholes nonstop coverage. Good luck with that! Sometimes they even get their own theme tune. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/104 "2015-12-03T01:46:14Z")
At the police press conference, I believe they said two suspects were dead (one male and one female) and a third was detained. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/105 "2015-12-03T01:47:19Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > This shit isn’t going to end until the fucking press stops giving these assholes nonstop coverage. The alternative is that something like this happens, and there is a press blackout. Allowing the police or other authorities to censor the press is like putting banana peels on the ice covering a slippery slope. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/106 "2015-12-03T01:50:46Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > At the police press conference, I believe they said two suspects were dead (one male and one female) and a third was detained. Yep, my mistake. They detained a third individual who was running from the scene and have that person in custody. The chief said it has not been determined what connection that person has, if any, to the shooting. He did indicate there is a possibility of others being involved but it didn’t seem like that is based on anything solid at the moment. But yes, there is not a known third person at large. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/107 "2015-12-03T01:54:44Z")
Apparently information after the original shooting led the police to a house in Redlands (a town next to San Bernardino). When police approached the house, the man and woman fled in the black SUV back toward San Bernardino where the final gun battle occurred. [Latest update.](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-up-to-20-shot-in-san-bernardino-active-shooter-sought-20151202-story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/108 "2015-12-03T02:08:23Z")
Aaaaaand it begins. One of my conservative relatives linked to [this](http://www.inquisitr.com/2605302/farooq-saeed-possible-san-bernardino-shooting-suspect-identified-by-news-outlets-police-manhunt-continues/), which basically asserts that this is the work of an Arab terrorist. I am not familiar with the site, but I’m going to crawl out onto a limb and guess it’s a purveryor of right-wing bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/109 "2015-12-03T02:13:03Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Aaaaaand it begins. One of my conservative relatives linked to [this](http://www.inquisitr.com/2605302/farooq-saeed-possible-san-bernardino-shooting-suspect-identified-by-news-outlets-police-manhunt-continues/), which basically asserts that this is the work of an Arab terrorist. I am not familiar with the site, but I’m going to crawl out onto a limb and guess it’s a purveryor of right-wing bullshit. How is it any crazier than blaming antivaxers? ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/110 "2015-12-03T02:17:00Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > How is it any crazier than blaming antivaxers? I’m starting to believe that it is that person Farooq. I don’t know, but it’s likely. ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/111 "2015-12-03T02:17:29Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Aaaaaand it begins. One of my conservative relatives linked to [this](http://www.inquisitr.com/2605302/farooq-saeed-possible-san-bernardino-shooting-suspect-identified-by-news-outlets-police-manhunt-continues/), which basically asserts that this is the work of an Arab terrorist. I am not familiar with the site, but I’m going to crawl out onto a limb and guess it’s a purveryor of right-wing bullshit. Maybe I missed something, but I didn’t get any suggestion out of that article indicating Arab terrorist. ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/112 "2015-12-03T02:28:18Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Reports are saying as many as 3 gunmen may be involved. > > I can imagine one person who was angry at the treatment he’d received, but 2 or 3 people staging a coordinated attack on a place like that is just bizzare. One was a gunwoman and now she is a dead gunwoman ! Good! What a cowardly act shooting disable people ! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/113 "2015-12-03T02:40:23Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > One was a gunwoman and now she is a dead gunwoman ! Good! What a cowardly act shooting disable people ! There has been no report that the victims were the disabled people, they might have been administrators. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/114 "2015-12-03T02:43:12Z")
> [@Personal](#): > > Maybe I missed something, but I didn’t get any suggestion out of that article indicating Arab terrorist. It’s all in the subtext: (1) Arab name + (2) shooter + (3) non-Arab victims. (Edit: And, if I’m honest, (4) the specific relative who linked to the article in the first place, which colored my reading.) ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/115 "2015-12-03T02:46:58Z")
Has there been any ID of the perpetrators or their motives yet? I mean if they killed two suspects they should at least be able to figure out who they were. I’m also 15 miles from SB. Have a friend who lives practically right in that neighborhood (and am planning on going to his house this Friday for a poker game). I doubt he would have any reason to be in or around that particular building but checked in on FB to make sure. Also have another friend in Redlands, where the shootout with the suspects apparently occurred. Texted her. ---
**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/116 "2015-12-03T02:54:06Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > It’s all in the subtext: (1) Arab name + (2) shooter + (3) non-Arab victims. (Edit: And, if I’m honest, (4) the specific relative who linked to the article in the first place, which colored my reading.) I’m seeing the name reported as “Syed Farook”. I would like to point out that a person named Farooq Saeed or Syed Farook is likely to be a Muslim, but not necessarily an _Arab_. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/117 "2015-12-03T03:00:10Z")
According to this NBC producer, Sayeed Farouk is an American citizen and this possibly started as a workplace dispute. Aalso his brother might be one of the other suspects. I don’t know though. Who brings bombs and three other people to a workplace dispute (as opposed to who of us just fantasizes about it.) [https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez](https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/118 "2015-12-03T03:06:46Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > This shit isn’t going to end until the fucking press stops giving these assholes nonstop coverage. How exactly do you think that would work? We would all still hear about an incident like this (e.g., via social media) but would be unable to get any factual information from, in your words, “the fucking press.” ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/119 "2015-12-03T03:15:40Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > How exactly do you think that would work? We would all still hear about an incident like this (e.g., via social media) but would be unable to get any factual information from, in your words, “the fucking press.” The _factual information_ part of your comment is actually funny. CNN has had every supposed expert, giving every imaginable hypothetical fact regarding what/who/why this might/could/should have happened with respect to the event. Factual information won’t be available for days, maybe weeks. Meanwhile, non-stop coverage keeps coming making those with less than full decks think this might be a cool way to gain shit-loads of attention. ---
**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242/120 "2015-12-03T03:23:15Z")
**Morgenstern** , are you really going to be content to go to bed tonight not having any idea who did this or why? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/739242.md?page=7)