# Another National Park asshole vandal **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 23, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655 "2016-09-23T17:31:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/81 "2016-09-28T13:07:57Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > And if you are SO outraged by rocks being knocked over, or some mud being disturbed, that you go online and post about how outraged you are because people can’t look at rocks, or a dry river bed, perhaps you should read more about actual REAL injustices in the world that happen to REAL people, and not rocks or mud. That’s hilarious, considering you’re the person who has posted 25 times (out of 80 posts) in \*this \*thread, and I don’t know how many in the other thread, to tell us how outraged you are that some people are outraged about just rocks. In other words, obvious troll is obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/82 "2016-09-28T13:10:56Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > That’s hilarious, considering you’re the person who has posted 25 times (out of 80 posts) in \*this \*thread, and I don’t know how many in the other thread, to tell us how outraged you are that some people are outraged about just rocks. > > In other words, obvious troll is obvious. Strange, I never said I was outraged. Please point out where I said I was outraged. I said that people who ARE outraged are stupid. I’m not outraged about stupid people, because if I was, I wouldn’t have time to be outraged about anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/83 "2016-09-28T13:11:58Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’d respond to this but I’m too busy being annoyed by bigger assholes than you. yet, you DID respond. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/84 "2016-09-28T13:46:34Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > yet, you DID respond. It’s because I care. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/85 "2016-09-28T14:32:56Z")
Authorities have suspects now … [LA Times article](http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-death-valley-damage-20160927-snap-story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/86 "2016-09-29T18:31:20Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > No, because AGAIN, my stuff is private property. Rocks and mud - not private property. > > Seems like a simple concept. Apparently not. The land belongs to the Government and (here is the key point you keep missing) not the vandals so what right do the vandals have to ruin it. Or to put it another way vandals have as much right to topple duckbill or make tire tracks in a dry lake bed as they do to run their monster truck over your yard, and knock over your trees and break your sprinklers. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/87 "2016-09-29T18:33:09Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I’m not outraged about stupid people, because if I was, I wouldn’t have time to be outraged about anything else. Because for you it would be a 24 hour a day job. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/88 "2016-09-29T18:50:45Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Authorities have suspects now … [LA Times article](http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-death-valley-damage-20160927-snap-story.html) Still no named suspects or charges. I hope this moves forward; there have been no further developments in the Oregon case. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/89 "2016-09-30T13:33:06Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Apparently not. The land belongs to the Government and (here is the key point you keep missing) not the vandals so what right do the vandals have to ruin it. > Or to put it another way > vandals have as much right to topple duckbill or make tire tracks in a dry lake bed as they do to run their monster truck over your yard, and knock over your trees and break your sprinklers. Public /= private Private /= public I never said they had a right to do it, simply that outrage over toppled rocks and mud is stupid. If someone broke my sprinklers, that is time and money that was spent installing, maintaining, and operating sprinklers. I don’t believe anyone expended any effort to create the rocks and/or the mud. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/90 "2016-09-30T13:37:02Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Because for you it would be a 24 hour a day job. Yes, because there are a lot of stupid people in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/91 "2016-09-30T13:38:42Z")
It’s okay, **manson1972** ; we get that you’re incapable of understanding the issue. You don’t have to keep reminding us. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/92 "2016-09-30T14:20:02Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > It’s okay, **manson1972** ; we get that you’re incapable of understanding the issue. You don’t have to keep reminding us. If you think that, then perhaps you should stop visiting this thread?🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/93 "2016-09-30T15:09:09Z")
The point of Parks is to preserve them, as best as possible. Places without rules, that are interesting in the slightest way, get turned into shitholes by us peoples.:mad: Just a fact of life I guess…kinda depressing tho. Like termites we is. I’ve seen both sides of this, seeing the dumps where people drop anything and everything, or mining areas which will always be just a mess…and the wilder areas, where mans footprint is so absent, its really, for me at least, a sort of spiritual experience.🆒 (I’ve hiked pretty far into the Sierras here in California, way, way up high, thinking no one had ever been there before me, and then looked down and seen an old can lid…made me laugh, but thats sort of a different scale, than fucking up stuff that millions of people enjoy) Anyways, Public Protected Lands belong to me, you, and everyone. So you fuck them up, you are fucking up my, yours and our stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/94 "2016-09-30T20:53:56Z")
Look! A soda can! That means tourists, and a road, and we’re saved! Whew! I thought it was a beer can, which means truckers, which means this would be a logging road, which goes nowhere, and we’d be doomed! You’re never truly lost in the woods when you know your garbage. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/95 "2016-09-30T22:33:43Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > If you think that, then perhaps you should stop visiting this thread?🙂 I think I get it now. You’re vandalizing this thread completely “in character” as an asshole, to show the devastating consequences when assholes vandalize public places. Superb method acting. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/96 "2016-10-01T01:30:23Z")
Is it “method acting” when that’s real, actual, goopy syrupy wet feces in his hands? (Actually, that’s a halfway serious question. Say I’m a method actor, and the script calls for me to throw up. Do I actually throw up, or do I just grimace, roll my eyes, and spit out the mouthful of Spaghetti-Os? Is method acting “acting” or functionally emulating?) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/97 "2016-10-01T02:20:39Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > …(Actually, that’s a halfway serious question. Say I’m a method actor, and the script calls for me to throw up. Do I actually throw up, or do I just grimace, roll my eyes, and spit out the mouthful of Spaghetti-Os? Is method acting “acting” or functionally emulating?) As I understand it, method acting for a vomiting scene would involve spending time beforehand experiencing actual vomiting, in order to gain a deep understanding of the emotions that the vomiter experiences. I don’t think it’s so much about whether the acted scene is simulated or not. On reflection, I’m not sure that my description of manson1972 as a method actor was necessarily apt. Unless of course he’s been acting like an ignorant asshole to everyone around him for the last couple of months, practicing for his role in this thread; which does seems quite plausible, given how well he’s playing the role, staying in character flawlessly. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/98 "2016-10-01T02:27:56Z")
Some entertaining method acting anecdotes here: > **[15 Times Stars Took Method Acting Too Far](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/64817/15-times-stars-took-method-acting-too-far)** > > For some actors, just looking the part isn't enough. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/99 "2016-10-01T02:29:18Z")
**Riemann** : That makes sense. Thanks! Also agreed with the other parts of your post. Our weird little friend is almost certainly an actor, but of the garden-variety trollish nature. He stays in character…but it’s an ugly character. Who’d want to? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/100 "2016-10-03T13:31:55Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > **Riemann** : That makes sense. Thanks! > > Also agreed with the other parts of your post. Our weird little friend is almost certainly an actor, but of the garden-variety trollish nature. He stays in character…but it’s an ugly character. Who’d want to? I’m not an actor. I don’t change my opinion based on what others say here unless backed up with facts. The fact is, whining about rocks and mud is, to me, stupid. Not sure why not caring about rocks or mud makes me an asshole, but whatever. Did you see the vandalism on Trump’s building? Where’s the outrage over that? This still cracks me up - “Sure you may do a lot for the homeless, and orphaned children, and kittens with no eyes, but you don’t like mud and rocks! You asshole!” :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655.md?page=6)