# Another National Park asshole vandal **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 23, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655 "2016-09-23T17:31:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/101 "2016-10-03T14:17:09Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > The fact is, whining about rocks and mud is, to me, stupid. Not sure why not caring about rocks or mud makes me an asshole, but whatever. To explain this to you again: the “rocks and mud” are a thing that many, many people have determined to have an intrinsic value, enough people that the government has endeavored to protect this particular arrangement of rocks and mud by designating it part of a national park. Some individual asshole has taken it upon him- or herself to diminish that intrinsic value by way of some brief and pointless joyriding, thus ruining it for everyone else. It is a selfish act of vandalism. We don’t think you’re an asshole because you don’t care about this particular arrangement of rocks and mud. We think you’re an asshole because you assume the fact that _you_ don’t care about this particular arrangement of rocks and mud means that \*others \*are “stupid” for doing so. Is that simple enough for you, or do I have to get out the hand puppets and have Elmo explain it to you? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/102 "2016-10-03T15:53:29Z")
Forget it, he’s [del]t[/del]rolling. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/103 "2016-10-03T16:02:38Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > To explain this to you again: the “rocks and mud” are a thing that many, many people have determined to have an intrinsic value Yes, and those people are stupid. Where is the outrage for the vandalism of Trump’s building? Doesn’t the building have value? I would surmise that it has more value than a rock or some mud. Aren’t you outraged by that? Or, as I suspect, you have different levels of outrage depending on what YOU consider valuable, same as me. Mine doesn’t reach the “care about rocks and mud” level. Your might. Me not caring about the same things you do makes me an asshole? If you say so. I think you are an asshole for not posting outrage about the vandalism of Trump’s building. So? > [@](#): > > Is that simple enough for you, or do I have to get out the hand puppets and have Elmo explain it to you? You have hand puppets? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/104 "2016-10-03T16:04:11Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Forget it, he’s [del]t[/del]rolling. Oh yes, the so original “That poster doesn’t agree with me, he must be trolling!” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/105 "2016-10-03T16:09:20Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Oh yes, the so original “That poster doesn’t agree with me, he must be trolling!” > > :rolleyes: No, the even more original “it’s manson1972, the stupid one-trick monkey, indisputably trolling (poorly)” trope. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/106 "2016-10-03T16:11:16Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > No, the even more original “it’s manson1972, the stupid one-trick monkey, indisputably trolling (poorly)” trope. I know more than one trick! Also, calling me a monkey is racist. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/107 "2016-10-03T20:26:16Z")
**manson1972** is it your intention that henceforth in any and every single thread where there is denunciation of an act of vandalism against a natural formation you will (a) intervene to ridicule and deride the notion and (b) seek to have the last word? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/108 "2016-10-03T20:32:50Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Oh yes, the so original “That poster doesn’t agree with me, he must be trolling!” It’s not what you’re saying, it’s how you’re saying it. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/109 "2016-10-03T20:48:31Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I know more than one trick! Is the other trick throwing _actual_ faeces? If you could do that with reasonable skill, the comparison would be less insulting to monkeys. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/110 "2016-10-04T00:18:29Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Yes, and those people are stupid. Where is the outrage for the vandalism of Trump’s building? Doesn’t the building have value? I would surmise that it has more value than a rock or some mud. Aren’t you outraged by that? Or, as I suspect, you have different levels of outrage depending on what YOU consider valuable, same as me. Mine doesn’t reach the “care about rocks and mud” level. Your might. Me not caring about the same things you do makes me an asshole? If you say so. I think you are an asshole for not posting outrage about the vandalism of Trump’s building. So? And what about the Holocaust? How can you sit there going on about Trump’s building when the Holocaust happened? WHAT KIND OF MONSTER ARE YOU THAT YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/111 "2016-10-05T12:32:56Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > **manson1972** is it your intention that henceforth in any and every single thread where there is denunciation of an act of vandalism against a natural formation you will (a) intervene to ridicule and deride the notion and (b) seek to have the last word? I wouldn’t say EVERY thread, just those that interest me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/112 "2016-10-05T12:34:23Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And what about the Holocaust? How can you sit there going on about Trump’s building when the Holocaust happened? WHAT KIND OF MONSTER ARE YOU THAT YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST? Can’t you read? I’m not going on about Trump’s building, I’m asking where is the outrage from people who care about vandalism of rocks and mud. And really, Holocaust comparisons? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/113 "2016-10-05T12:35:27Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > It’s not what you’re saying, it’s how you’re saying it. > :rolleyes: Ok. “That poster says stuff in a way I don’t like, he must be a Troll!” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/114 "2016-10-05T15:25:22Z")
How about we see what **Miller** thinks? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/115 "2016-10-05T19:47:50Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > How about we see what **Miller** thinks? How about we see what he thinks about what? Your level of idiocy for crying over rocks and mud? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/116 "2016-10-06T03:07:41Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I’m not going on about Trump’s building, I’m asking where is the outrage from people who care about vandalism of rocks and mud. This is a Pit thread about vandalism in National Parks. Outrage about vandalism to Trump properties elsewhere isn’t particularly relevant. Or, as one poster remarked: > [@Slash1972](#): > > Just kills me that you guys STILL equate public land with privately owned houses and cars You need to remember not to try to troll in two opposite directions at once. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655/117 "2016-10-06T23:36:38Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > This is a Pit thread about vandalism in National Parks. Outrage about vandalism to Trump properties elsewhere isn’t particularly relevant. Fair point. I shall look for another thread decrying the vandalism of private property. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-national-park-asshole-vandal/766655.md?page=5)