# Another one (potentially) bites the dust--Justin Trudeau sexual allegations **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 3, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210 "2018-07-03T02:19:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/1 "2018-07-03T02:19:59Z")
Have any of our Canadian members heard this yet? > [@](#): > > Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Sunday denied allegations that he “groped” a young reporter at a music festival almost two decades ago. > > He was responding to recently-unearthed accusations, made 18 years ago. He said he did not remember anything like that happening at the time. > > The allegations were first published in a local paper, the Creston Valley Advance, in an unsigned editorial in 2000. > **[Woman Who Says Justin Trudeau Groped Her Identifies Herself](https://time.com/5328843/canadian-prime-minister-justin-trudeu-denies-groping-reporter/)** > > Canada's Prime Minister said he did not remember the allegations ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/2 "2018-07-03T03:52:44Z")
The idea that the Prime Minister of Canada could “bite the dust” because of an unproven allegation of groping from 20 years ago, is nothing but a spiteful anti-Canadian fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/3 "2018-07-03T07:59:45Z")
Wow. Twenty years ago. What was he? 15?? Please. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/4 "2018-07-03T08:16:48Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Wow. Twenty years ago. What was he? 15?? Please. 1. And if current standard are applied he is out. An allegation is as good as a conviction. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/5 "2018-07-03T08:24:12Z")
Are we talking about the guy with the fake eyebrows? ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/6 "2018-07-03T08:55:22Z")
An unsigned editorial? From 20 yrs ago? You must be joking, right? ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/7 "2018-07-03T09:31:47Z")
He should be burnt at the stake! If the flames don’t harm him, it’s proof that he’s a molesterist and then he can be beheaded, if the flames killed him, at least he died doing what he loved best…burning in agony. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/8 "2018-07-03T14:50:52Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > 1. And if current standard are applied he is out. An allegation is as good as a conviction. Can you explain Trump then? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/9 "2018-07-03T15:28:42Z")
Unless someone comes forward, the female reporter in this case does not want to be named or discuss it, this can’t go anywhere. I’ll point out that the publisher of the community paper believes the reporter but is quoted in the [CBC article on it](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-grope-allegation-1.4730674) as saying “I would not classify it or qualify it as sexual assault.” so I’m not really sure what actually happened. ---
**Author:** ![LionelHutz405](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lionelhutz405/32/536_2.png) [@LionelHutz405](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LionelHutz405)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/10 "2018-07-03T15:59:18Z")
“I don’t remember any negative interactions that day at all” is an odd phrase and open to multiple interpretations. (Unlike “I didn’t do it.”, which is pretty clear.) It happened, but he doesn’t remember it? It happened but it wasn’t a negative interaction. (The boob-grabber and the grabee just might have different views on that.) It didn’t happen. The author of the editorial is a lier. None of those interpretations reflect well on Trudeau. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/11 "2018-07-03T16:18:44Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > 1. And if current standard are applied he is out. An allegation is as good as a conviction. Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/12 "2018-07-03T16:20:00Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > Have any of our Canadian members heard this yet? > > [Woman Who Says Justin Trudeau Groped Her Identifies Herself | TIME](http://time.com/5328843/canadian-prime-minister-justin-trudeu-denies-groping-reporter/) 18 years ago?? ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/13 "2018-07-03T16:36:28Z")
I read quite a bit on it - the issue here is that the PM himself took a very hardline approach to other politicos that were accused. It remains to be seen what comes of this, if anything. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/14 "2018-07-03T16:37:37Z")
I don’t think you can just brush it off just because it’s an old accusation. However, the accusation is very undetailed and the accuser doesn’t seem to want to pursue it in any way so unless a bunch of other people come forward, I’m comfortable not giving the story much headspace. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/15 "2018-07-03T16:40:06Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > 1. And if current standard are applied he is out. An allegation is as good as a conviction. By current standards, that’s not true at all. You hadn’t heard of the Steve Paikin case? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/16 "2018-07-03T16:44:55Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > 1. And if current standard are applied he is out. An allegation is as good as a conviction. Vice-President Pence wishes this were true but, alas, you’re dealing in fantasies. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/17 "2018-07-03T17:40:02Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Can you explain Trump then? The normal rules don’t apply to him. I am not certain that the laws of physics do.☹ ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/18 "2018-07-03T20:32:51Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > The idea that the Prime Minister of Canada could “bite the dust” because of an unproven allegation of groping from 20 years ago, is nothing but a spiteful anti-Canadian fantasy. Lol. Canada is too bland to stir up feelings of hatred. > [@Eonwe](#): > > Nope. Apparently some people on this board have never heard of Garrison Keillor, who was fired because of a single accusation. There are other examples here. > **[After Weinstein: 71 Men Accused of Sexual Misconduct and Their Fall From...](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/10/us/men-accused-sexual-misconduct-weinstein.html)** > > A list of men who have resigned, been fired or otherwise lost power since the Harvey Weinstein scandal broke. And here is fallout from a single, 16-year-old accusation. > [@](#): > > On December 19, 2017, an unnamed woman accused Silicon Valley actor T.J. Miller of sexually assaulting and punching her while both attended George Washington University in 2001. Later that day, Comedy Central cancelled Miller’s The Gorburger Show after one season. > **[Weinstein effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weinstein_effect)** > > The Weinstein effect is a controversial term, which was used by a small number of digital media outlets to describe as "the culture of silence that protects powerful men being rapidly eroded". > The first of a worldwide wave of allegations was made in the United States in October 2017, when media outlets reported on the allegations made against film producer Harvey Weinstein. They were described as a "tipping point" or "watershed moment" and precipitated an "international reckoning" against sex... ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/19 "2018-07-03T20:52:13Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > Lol. > Canada is too bland to stir up feelings of hatred. Bullshit. On both points. Canada isn’t bland, and there’s currently more anti-Canadian sentiment in America than there has been for centuries - spurred on by Trump and his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210/20 "2018-07-04T01:29:11Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > Bullshit. On both points. Canada isn’t bland, and there’s currently more anti-Canadian sentiment in America than there has been for centuries - spurred on by Trump and his supporters. Speaking of which, I find it … interesting … that this accusation is being dredged out of the memory hole just when Trudeau is fighting back in Trump’s trade war. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-one-potentially-bites-the-dust-justin-trudeau-sexual-allegations/817210.md?page=2)