# Another OOTS thread: Roy and the Oracle **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 21, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-oots-thread-roy-and-the-oracle/457221 "2008-07-21T03:14:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-oots-thread-roy-and-the-oracle/457221/21 "2008-07-22T02:12:12Z")
> [@](#): > > Yeah, I’m pretty sure that Roy’s Raise By date has expired. Consider “raise dead” requires the deceased has been dead less than one day per caster level and Roy’s been dead for well over a hundred days by now, it would be a pretty epic feat. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-oots-thread-roy-and-the-oracle/457221/22 "2008-07-22T06:48:17Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] I’m thinking there might be something specific in the description of bone golems that addresses using ressurection or raise dead on them. Most golems are pretty magic resistant to begin with, and a golem that can instantly be “destroyed” by being hit with just one spell (particularly a relatively low-level spell like Raise Dead) is not a particularly effective golem. [/QUOTE] Maybe, but if you kill a bone golem by more “conventional” means, you’re left with a pile of formerly-enchanted bones. So they’d probably have to whack golem-Roy a few times with a blunt object first before they resurrect him. The question that’s bugging _me_ is: do resurrected characters retain any memories of their time in the Outer Planes? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-oots-thread-roy-and-the-oracle/457221/23 "2008-07-22T12:03:15Z")
[QUOTE=Alessan] The question that’s bugging _me_ is: do resurrected characters retain any memories of their time in the Outer Planes? [/QUOTE] Ooooh! There’s the Oracle’s loophole! I don’t believe they do retain those memories. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-oots-thread-roy-and-the-oracle/457221/24 "2008-07-22T12:57:47Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] I’m thinking there might be something specific in the description of bone golems that addresses using ressurection or raise dead on them. Most golems are pretty magic resistant to begin with, and a golem that can instantly be “destroyed” by being hit with just one spell (particularly a relatively low-level spell like Raise Dead) is not a particularly effective golem. [/QUOTE] I doubt that _raise dead_ would ever be applicable against a bone (or flesh) golem, because of its restriction on how long the raw materials can have been dead. _Resurrection_, maybe. Also, there is no provision for either one of 'em destroying the bone (or flesh) golem. You might end up with both Roy _and_ a golem. Silly, yes, but this is D&D and OotS. Finally, based on this issue’s title, I doubt that this is actually addressed in any book. I certainly can’t recall a bone golem statted up… (though I stopped collecting monster manuals once they became mostly plothooks and maps with reskinned monsters I’d seen before). Certainly the flesh golem doesn’t mention anything about this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-oots-thread-roy-and-the-oracle/457221.md?page=1)