# Another ornament to the teaching profession **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612 "2006-06-06T14:28:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/21 "2006-06-07T00:39:18Z")
[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] You’re just now realizing this? How old \*are \* you? [/QUOTE] I’m 30. And you know, I \*had \*realized it before but was willfully denying it. After all, I rather like boys and have my very own at home. But the truth shall no longer be denied! ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2006, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/22 "2006-06-07T05:18:42Z")
😕 She’s not _that_ ugly. Actually, I’d say she’s about average looking for her age. If I was desperately horny I’d probably do her. ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2006, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/23 "2006-06-07T06:09:12Z")
> [@](#): > > The court **head** that she also performed a sex act on him and touched him indecently during the same period. Freud, meet slip… ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2006, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/24 "2006-06-07T08:42:59Z")
[QUOTE=Anaamika] Upon actually looking at her, it strikes me that boys really are silly. And indeed will hump anything. And have no standards. _shudders_ [/QUOTE] I’ll thank you not to judge the entire gender by the yardstick of a 14-15 year old boy with “behavioural difficulties”, hon. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2006, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/25 "2006-06-07T09:08:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Back in high school, my buddies tried to put the make on anything that moved. I told them, “Why limit yourselves?” – Emo Phillips ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2006, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/26 "2006-06-07T12:48:44Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] I’ll thank you not to judge the entire gender by the yardstick of a 14-15 year old boy with “behavioural difficulties”, hon. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] I didn’t. I said “boys”, really. Unless you’re saying all men are boys, and, jokes notwithstanding I don’t really believe that. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2006, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/27 "2006-06-07T12:55:12Z")
[QUOTE=Anaamika] I didn’t. I said “boys”, really. Unless you’re saying all men are boys, and, jokes notwithstanding I don’t really believe that. [/QUOTE] There’s some truth to the notion that adolescent boys leaking testosterone from every pore will be only too grateful for the use of any warm hole, but seriously, plenty of young guys will turn it down even if it’s on a plate, if the offer is coming from a thorough-going skank. (There’s also the borderline class, of girls you’ll shag but not admit to it, although admittedly in my particular case both this and the preceding example were purely hypothetical.) ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/28 "2006-06-29T12:10:37Z")
Update from the paper (no online cite as yet, sorry): Four years in the hoosegow. The way it usually works, she’ll be out in about half of that. Apparently when the shit first began to hit the fan she first denied everything and then tried to claim she had been raped. But counsel for the defence said in mitigation that she accepted full responsibility for her actions. Well yes, I guess when absolutely cornered with cast-iron proof of what she did and no way out whatever, yes she did. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/29 "2006-06-29T14:46:16Z")
> [@](#): > > I personally wouldn’t touch this one on a bet Offensive. Unnecessary. And do you think people only have sex with some select group of people who meet your standards of attractiveness? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/30 "2006-06-29T14:52:42Z")
Not only is it what he thinks, it’s _true_! Anyway, I’m sure that like good reconstructed citizens of the equality era, most of us enlightened ones (unlike **Malacandra** _spit_) can find it within ourselves to look past this lady’s troll-like exterior and appreciate the true beauty of the statutory rapist within. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/31 "2006-06-29T14:59:37Z")
[QUOTE=Shoshana] Offensive. Unnecessary. And do you think people only have sex with some select group of people who meet your standards of attractiveness? [/QUOTE] _sigh_ Nothing like reading for context, is there? I was merely heading off at the pass the oft-repeated line about “Well, if only some _hot_ teacher had done me when _I_ was 15!” by pointing out that “hot” was the last thing this specimen was. :rolleyes: And you could see that was what I was saying from further up the thread. You know, you could have become outraged at the notion of a 49-year-old teacher abusing the age difference and the custodial relationship, the fact that she not only denied everything but tried to make out the victim had _raped_ her, the convenient decision to plead guilty when it finally dawned on her she was going to be hung out to dry, the pitifully light sentence… no, you’ve got to rag on me for so much as mentioning that a woman could possibly be physically unattractive even by my none-too-stringent standards. Don’t mind me, but when I’m talking about sex criminals, I kinda reserve the right to be as offensive and unnecessary as I like, m’kay? Other ugly people can have sex with whomever they like, for all I’ve ever had to say on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/32 "2006-06-29T15:00:39Z")
[QUOTE=Dead Badger] Not only is it what he thinks, it’s _true_! Anyway, I’m sure that like good reconstructed citizens of the equality era, most of us enlightened ones (unlike **Malacandra** _spit_) can find it within ourselves to look past this lady’s troll-like exterior and appreciate the true beauty of the statutory rapist within. Or something. [/QUOTE] Beautiful! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/33 "2006-06-29T16:09:09Z")
[QUOTE=vetbridge] “Billy, tell me again why you’re keeping pumpkins in your room. Halloween is months away”. [/QUOTE] 😕 :eek: :dubious: . . . 😃 Does that actually work? Uh, “research” ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/34 "2006-06-29T16:15:17Z")
When I was in high school, there was this guy whose sister interrupted a “pumpkin session” when she entered his room unannounced. He thought he was alone in the house. The brother was around 15, sis was a year younger. Sister and brother were “mortal enemies”, so the first thing sis did was to blab all over what she had witnessed. I have no idea what he did with his life, but if I ran into him today, my first thought would be, “hey, it’s the pumpkinfucker”. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/35 "2006-06-29T16:19:44Z")
Do they call me McGregor the Bridgebuilder? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/36 "2006-06-29T18:31:07Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] _sigh_ Nothing like reading for context, is there? I was merely heading off at the pass the oft-repeated line about “Well, if only some _hot_ teacher had done me when _I_ was 15!” by pointing out that “hot” was the last thing this specimen was. :rolleyes: And you could see that was what I was saying from further up the thread. You know, you could have become outraged at the notion of a 49-year-old teacher abusing the age difference and the custodial relationship, the fact that she not only denied everything but tried to make out the victim had _raped_ her, the convenient decision to plead guilty when it finally dawned on her she was going to be hung out to dry, the pitifully light sentence… no, you’ve got to rag on me for so much as mentioning that a woman could possibly be physically unattractive even by my none-too-stringent standards. Don’t mind me, but when I’m talking about sex criminals, I kinda reserve the right to be as offensive and unnecessary as I like, m’kay? Other ugly people can have sex with whomever they like, for all I’ve ever had to say on the subject. [/QUOTE] No, I read the whole thread. I just disagree with your presentation of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/37 "2006-06-29T21:40:35Z")
[QUOTE=Shoshana] No, I read the whole thread. I just disagree with your presentation of the problem. [/QUOTE] Oh, right. Well, come back when you’ve something to say, and we can discuss it, maybe. You can start out by explaining what you think my “presentation of the problem” is, if you like. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/38 "2006-06-29T22:10:08Z")
She’s a fuckin’ pig! ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/39 "2006-06-29T22:58:17Z")
> [@](#): > > The court **head** that she also performed a sex act on him and touched him indecently during the same period. [QUOTE=if6was9] Freud, meet slip… [/QUOTE] I just figured they were trying to clue us in as to what, exactly, the “sex act” was. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612/40 "2006-07-03T01:43:09Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] [Here](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/5049478.stm) we go again. [/QUOTE] She probably looks better with makeup on. Or a bag over her head. Heck, maybe the boy did her doggy-style, in which case he wouldn’t have to look at her face at all. [QUOTE=tdn] Well, yeah. I mean, abuse of a minor is abuse of a minor. [/QUOTE] Umm…not to open a can of worms or anything, but…is it really so hard to believe that perhaps, maybe, the boy WANTED to fuck her? He’s 15, for cripes sake. In many countries (and even some U.S. states), that’s not even a crime. Why must we presume that he was abused, raped, taken advantage of, when all we’ve got is a CNN blurb to go by? Don’t get me wrong, I’m NOT condoning their actions, not at all. It’s cleary inappropriate, especially with a figure of authority. But it does get my hackles up when a person that age is automatically treated as a helpless, victimized child; whereas, across the English Channel, he’d be treated like a responsible adult. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ornament-to-the-teaching-profession/359612.md?page=3)