Another repeat of a request

[lissener]

@TVeblen

With respect, lissener, the issue is not remotely ‘that simple’. Any such rule would substantially alter the nature of the Pit. What you suggest would sanitize the Dope, and the Pit, out of all recognition.

This is, to some extent, a matter of opinion. But your opinion is so bizarrely offbase as to be quite simply, starkly, wrong. If not delusional.

How could you possibly make the case that titling a thread “fark you you farking fark” instead of “fuck you you fucking fuck”–without limiting the expression within the thread itself at all–would “sanitize the Dope out of all recognition”? “Out of all recognition”? Dude, seriously. Fark.com had its software tweaked to automatically change fuck to fark and bitch to biatch, etc. Do you consider fark.com “sanitized beyond all recognition”?

@TVeblen

It can’t be tailored to suit the limitations of every single poster’s work circumstances. The board would end up a pale ghost of itself. The most restrictive work situations can’t drive the entire board.

Dude. No one is suggesting the “most restrictive work situations” dictate the rules. I’m actually suggesting one of the *least *restricive work situations be considered. Seriously, please reread my posts.

I don’t mind actual logical objections to my actual reality-based position. But the objections you’re outlining have nothing at all to do with the minimal standards of politeness I’m proposing. MINIMAL. I’m NOT suggesting that people with extremely restrictive work environments be accomodated. I just think that it’s a shame that you can’t visit the Dope via the front page, even if you intend to avoid the Pit, because of children who think shitting in the community sandbox makes them Thomas Fucking Paine.

[Giraffe]

@lissener

Hmm. Well then it’s a good thing that’s not remotely related to anything I’ve suggested. (Do you have too many windows open or something?)

I’m referring to your example where your boss saw the front page with it’s list of forum descriptions along with the most recent thread, e.g.:

The BBQ Pit
If you gotta flame, do it here. This is the place for all complaints and other discussion regarding administration of the SDMB

Fuck you, you fucking fuck, by Giraffe

Which you said meant:

@lissener

But the credibility of the Dope as a serious source of information, first-impression-wise, was shot. His first experience of the dope was me defending it, going, “No really, it’s a great source for information, no really.”

Since the latest thread is right next to the forum descriptions, I have a hard time believing someone is going to dismiss the whole board because our forum devoted to flaming and complaining had a thread with the f-word in it.

[lissener]

Yeah, cept, like, I never said anything about “not having a forum which allows flaming or swearing.” I’m suggesting that if you welcome newbies with such things on your front page, that will be a factor in the first impression. My colleague swears a blue streak, but not in inappropriate places. He’d not have questioned the credibility of a site that accomodates such exchanges, but he (and I) would tend to withhold the benefit of the doubt for a site that considers its welcome page an appropriate place for such language. When it’s on the welcome page, you have no choice; your only choice is not to use the Dope at all. When it’s in a designated place–like, a smoking room, say–you can choose whether you want to “go there.”

And I still can’t imagine any infinitesimal change in the overall quality of the board that would be wrought by such a minimal consideration.

[Miller]

@lissener

Dude. No one is suggesting the “most restrictive work situations” dictate the rules. I’m actually suggesting one of the *least *restricive work situations be considered. Seriously, please reread my posts.

Well, if we’re going to cater to your work situation, why not cater to everyone’s work situation. You and Clothahump want to read the Dope at work, but can’t because there’s swearing in thread titles. Other people, I am sure, want to read the Dope at work, because there’s swearing inside the threads themselves. Other people want to read the Dope at work, but can’t because the board is called “The Straight Dope.” Why should the board alter itself to conform to your workplace standards, and not everyone else’s?

I just think that it’s a shame that you can’t visit the Dope via the front page, even if you intend to avoid the Pit, because of children who think shitting in the community sandbox makes them Thomas Fucking Paine.

Your complaints about people distorting your position would have more merit if you weren’t distorting other people’s positions at the same time.

[Klaatu]

I can’t believe this thread has gone on this long. Holy Fuck, if the words on the screen offend your cow-orkers, bosses whoever, that’s your fucking problem for reading the board at work. Just don’t then.

If you are worried about tender or sensitive eyes reading baad words on the screen at home, wherever, that’s still your fucking problem, not the SDMB.

If you are worried about newbies being all offended about shit on the front page, that’s their fucking problem.

Stop trying to censor shit on the fucking net. You sound like lame whiners.

[Klaatu]

Oh, and BTW Dio, I don’t like you very much (Here on the board I mean, I would probably enjoy having a beer or three with you IRL), but that big red post made me laugh my ass off!

I just hope you didn’t get anybody fired, heh.

[UncleBeer]

@lissener

Dude. No one is suggesting the “most restrictive work situations” dictate the rules. I’m actually suggesting one of the *least *restricive work situations be considered. Seriously, please reread my posts.

Well then - problem solved. My workplace is apparently less “restrictive” than yours. The rules currently in place here are quite adequate to the restrictions in my office. Mebbe the better thing would be that if there are persons potentially offended by seeing the word “fuck” on the internet at your workplace, your fucking employer should formulate some rules about employees visiting potentially offensive sites during business hours.

Anyway, lemme know if these thread titles are offensive or not. Why don’t you run 'em by your supervisors just to be sure.

Manhattan is a fuckwad, and Microsoft can suck my dick
Paul Verhoeven can kiss Robert Heinlein’s entire ass
Manhattan is a fuckwad, and Microsoft can suck my dick
Homophobes can suck my dick.

Your complaints about propriety and politeness seem kinda hypocritical when you yourself have felt no compunction to author polite thread titles in the past. It’s only when your particular situation changed that this became an issue to you. I fail to understand why the fuck 5000 members should have to accomodate you, when you could solve your own goddamn problem with a minor modification to your own surfing behavior. Fucking hypocritical and arrogant.

Ya know, if having to use multiple computers at work is such a mysterious technical stumbling block to you, you can import your bookmarks to a personalized Google page where they’ll be available on any machine. And I’ll wager a substantial portion of this week’s paycheck that Google ain’t the only place you can do that. Mobile bookmarks isn’t exactly a new technical hurdle; that barrier’s been knocked down for several years not. Fucking hypocritical and arrogant and subbornly ignorant. Not a good combination.

[Revtim]

I wonder if this might be a solution:
http://torpark.nfshost.com/index.php

It’s seems to be designed to be run from USB keychain, but perhaps running it from a hard drive migth work well too.

[cerberus]

Let me get this straight … we’re supposed to play it clean … in the pit?!

So some sorry, gold-bricking slug can browse at work?

I need a really tactful response…

Fuck no, you sorry fascist, commie-bastard censorian slug-licking mooooooroooon

In fact, put this in your personal filter: I almost posted the Lord’s Prayer, but with most of the words replaced by the word fuck. Almost. You can imagine the results for yourself. I’ll restrain myself in this case. But you should have seen it. It was pretty.

Actually, I’ll put it here, if you really want to burn in Hell. If you don’t, or might be offended, don’t read it.

Our fuck, which fucks in fuck, fucked be thy fuck.
Thy Fuckity-fuck, thy fuck be fucked, as fuckity-fuckity-fuck.
Fuck us this fuck our daily fuck.
And fuck our fucks, as we fuck our fucks.
And fuck us not into fuck-tation, but fuck us from fuckiness.
For fuck is the fuck and fuckity-fuck and the cfuckity-fuckity-fuckl, for fuck’s sake, fuckity-fuck.

Gee, my workplace is run by racists, so could we have rule that we don’t put any minority or inter-racial items in the titles?

Gee, my workplace is run by Jeeeeezusssssss Freeks, so could you all put the words Jesus! Rocks! in every title?

Gee, my workplace is run by Jainists, could we just not mention any cruelty to animals, or any mention of any violence?

Gee, my workplace is run in Pig-Latin, could we just have everything on the fucking board be written in Pig Latin?

Gee, my workplace is run by homosexuals extremists, could we not have any references to either vaginas or heterosexist themes?

What a crock.