# Another right wing freak spawns gay baby **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 14, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074 "2005-02-14T20:49:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/41 "2005-02-15T14:50:38Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > FF? > > Founding Fathers? Fantastic Four. You’d be surprised what the Southern Baptists can come up with to justify their beliefs… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/42 "2005-02-15T14:58:54Z")
I thought it was the Fiend Folio. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/43 "2005-02-15T15:02:46Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > In the latest in an ever-increasing string of radical right wingers whose children have come out, Alan Keyes’ daughter [Maya](http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=15123&sd=02/12/05-02/14/05) has acknowledged that she is lesbian. You may remember Alan’s pronouncements at last year’s RNC convention that gay people are “selfish hedonists.” > > Now that Maya has come out publicly, her “defend the family” father has told her that she is not welcome in his home, nor will he pay for her tuition to Brown University. This left her homeless. Through the kindness and generosity of the GLBT community, Maya has a place to live again and has received private financial aid so that she will be able to attend college. > > I have to wonder, how many of these freaks’ children will have to come out before it dawns on the freaks that maybe their own belief systems need to be re-examined? I was so hoping this would happen. Maybe there IS a god! ;o) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/44 "2005-02-15T15:13:52Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > I thought it was the Fiend Folio. Yeah, right. Like the Fundamentalists would use D&D as a cite! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/45 "2005-02-15T15:31:17Z")
As much as I like to see homophobes get a come-uppance, it shouldn’t be at the expense of someone else. Especially their own child. ---
**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/46 "2005-02-15T15:56:07Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Yeah, right. Like the Fundamentalists would use D&D as a cite! I don’t know. Both the paeliryon and the xerfilstyx look kind of…well… ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/47 "2005-02-15T16:01:39Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > FF? > > Founding Fathers? Yeah. Though I like the other theories too. (Stan Lee as Biblical prophet – now, **that** has possibilities! :D) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/48 "2005-02-15T16:06:19Z")
> [@SolGrundy](#): > > So let me make sure I understand the morality correctly here, seeing as how I’ve been corrupted by the leftist homo-friendly agenda and all. > > [[li]A woman who not only equates her son’s sexual orientation with the death of her other son and a horrible accident causing the brain damage and blindness of her husband, but talks about how these experiences affected _her_ and the crisis it put _her_ through.[/li] To whom does this refer? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/49 "2005-02-15T16:19:48Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > Yeah. Though I like the other theories too. > > (Stan Lee as Biblical prophet – now, **that** has possibilities! :D) Can you actually _guarantee_ me he’s not? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/50 "2005-02-15T16:41:56Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > Yeah. Though I like the other theories too. > > (Stan Lee as Biblical prophet – now, **that** has possibilities! :D) And the great grand guru of God (Stan really likes alliteration) spake unto the multitudes and said “Woe unto the puny Philistines. Smash puny Philistines”. THOOOOOOMMM! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/51 "2005-02-15T17:16:18Z")
The _Fiend Folio_ was one of the AD&D (back when it was called AD&D) books my mother made me burn when she “discovered” that playing D&D was inviting Satan into my life. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/52 "2005-02-15T17:26:23Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > The _Fiend Folio_ was one of the AD&D (back when it was called AD&D) books my mother made me burn when she “discovered” that playing D&D was inviting Satan into my life. As opposed to the _Phil Foglio_, whose association with TSR/WotC produced a character who would invite Satan into her life, but only to lull him into a false sense of security so she could cosh him across the horns and steal his multi-dimensional empire of EEEVVIIIIILLLLL!!! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/53 "2005-02-15T18:00:09Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > “Suicide” implies that you had some life to begin with. The only reason anyone has given a damn for several years is that Illinois needed a placeholder for Barack Obama to destroy. That was more like a few months. Man, just the thought of not voting for that guy makes me smile. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/54 "2005-02-15T18:46:35Z")
Now that I think about it, she also thinks homosexuality is caused by demons. So she probably believes that me playing D&D back in the early 80s invited the demon into my life that caused me to be gay. AD&D, therefore, is the root cause of homosexuality. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/55 "2005-02-15T18:52:46Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Btw, I was looking all through GD & the Pit for this. Amazed that I found it in MPS [There’s a pit thread too.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302531) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/56 "2005-02-15T19:09:08Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > AD&D, therefore, is the root cause of homosexuality. Nah. It is, however, the root cause of people mistakenly thinking you’re homosexual because you can’t talk to girls… ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/57 "2005-02-15T20:19:55Z")
I suppose the OP is claiming that left-wingers can’t be equally anti-gay. You know, people like Hitler and Stalin. His politics are irrelevant. Anyway, I don’t know the guy from Adam, but I can see a (very distasteful) method in his action: not only has she angered him but there’s little chance of her providing him with grandchildren. But that’s so cold-blooded it leaves me shaking. Let us hope that at some point there will be a reconciliation. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/58 "2005-02-15T20:37:52Z")
Actually the OP made no such claim. It’s a figment of your imagination. But perhaps you can enlighten us as to which U.S. “left-wing” politicians or activists are anti-gay. I’ll give you Betty Freiden; but perhaps you could deal with the present instead. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/59 "2005-02-15T20:51:03Z")
AK ran for US Senate from Maryland (darn it is cold in Maryland right now!). I went to see him speak as an old college roomie was staffing for him. He spoke well, lots of volume, very dogmatic. I can report that when the candidate walked across the Bay Bridge along with several thousand voters on a fine summer day, when he was done, he got in his car. He was surrounded by hands to shake and he got in his blinkin’ car to go home! When he ran for (the Republican nomination for) President in 2000, he did not return phone calls from the Washington Post (or anyone else I think). AK is an odd dude. But what is worse yet is what I speculate is going on here. I suspect (with no evidense) that AK loves his daughter. I suspect he would support and stand by her, except that his own dogma has trapped him. Imagine that. He (may be) forced to break up his family to avoid losing face with his political supporters. If this were to be true, he would not only be a wierd dude, but would have some darn odd values. Not a fun story in any way or shape or form. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074/60 "2005-02-15T21:42:24Z")
I also live in Maryland, and while I’ve had no personal contact with Keyes, I remember when he ran for Senate here in 1992: he accused the national Republican party of racism for not giving him more campaign money. It later came out that he was paying himself a large salary out of the campaign funds, which is not technically legal, but is considered sleazy. It was even more so in Keyes’ case, because in asking for more money from the national party, he was essentially asking them for a raise, and crying racism when refused it. It amazes me that conservatives still take this guy seriously. I know he gets very few actual votes, but the concensus I hear from my conservative friends who don’t vote for him isn’t that he’s corrupt and self-serving, but that he’s too hard-line to be electable. In a weird irony, Keyes approaches politics similiarly to former KKK leader David Duke. Both men ran for office to get publicity and boost their between-election careers: talking to their faithful. Keyes has a bright future in the Republican party. Whenever there’s a Senate race that they have no chance of winning, they’ll offer it to him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-right-wing-freak-spawns-gay-baby/290074.md?page=4)