# Another School Shooting \[Stoneman Douglas\] (2/14/2018) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843 "2018-02-14T20:22:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/521 "2018-04-05T00:33:08Z")
I should think he would be questioned at home and arrested or brought in for questioning later if evidence is found that warrants it. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/522 "2018-04-05T01:19:19Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I should think… And yet. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/523 "2018-04-05T02:00:29Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So what happens to the 78-year-old man in Merry Olde Liberal England who killed a bad guy for breaking into his home and threatening both him and his wife? Why, he was arrested on suspicion of grievous bodily harm and further arrested on suspicion of murder Looks like a victory against evil to me. The kind of victory people like you keep claiming cannot happen without guns. So proof against your claims. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/524 "2018-04-05T02:10:06Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I should think he would be questioned at home and arrested or brought in for questioning later if evidence is found that warrants it. ISTM that if anything’s going to warrant suspicion of possible commission of a crime by this person, it would be the undisputed fact that he fatally stabbed somebody in the absence of witnesses. Evidence doesn’t really get much more potentially incriminating than that. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/525 "2018-04-05T05:45:11Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Ah, yes, good old liberalism and its affinity for criminals. By the way, that’s pretty rich coming from a self-professed fan of notorious scofflaw and grifter Cliven Bundy. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/526 "2018-04-05T09:08:59Z")
This reminded me of a case I read somewhere. A business man owes money to a small-time crook, so he suggests that the crook should break into his house and kill the businessman’s wife like it was a botched burglary. A businessman would then collect the insurance money, pay his debt and some extra. The crook accepts and one night he climbs through the window carrying a gun. The moment he steps in he gets a bullet through his head. I have no doubt that Starving Artist would’ve declared that self-defense in a heartbeat. Luckily not everybody is that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/527 "2018-04-05T09:31:24Z")
It would seem your screen name is misleading. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/528 "2018-04-05T09:34:25Z")
I’m sure yours is not 😉 ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/529 "2018-04-05T13:29:51Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It would seem your screen name is misleading. Sick burn, bruh. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/530 "2018-04-06T19:27:01Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I should think he would be questioned at home and arrested or brought in for questioning later if evidence is found that warrants it. The householder will face no further action, so hopefully that shuts up your dumb-fuck attempted hijack > **[Hither Green 'burglary death' suspect to face no action](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43676359)** > > Richard Osborn-Brooks had been held on suspicion of murder after an intruder was stabbed in his home. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/531 "2018-04-06T19:40:27Z")
Hey now, I confidently await **Starving Artist** ’s candid acknowledgement that the laws of “Merry Olde Liberal England” dealt with this situation in a just and conscientious manner, and his retraction of the term “Bizzaro [_sic_] World thinking”. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/532 "2018-04-06T20:03:57Z")
You know, for someone who claims to believe in good old fashioned values, **Starving Artist** sure does know a lot about [prostitutes](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20888272&postcount=73). ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/533 "2018-04-06T20:05:30Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You know, for someone who claims to believe in good old fashioned values, **Starving Artist** sure does know a lot about [prostitutes](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20888272&postcount=73). That is strange considering he probably thinks there was no prostitution before the hippy revolution of '68. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/534 "2018-04-06T20:07:52Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Hey now, I confidently await **Starving Artist** ’s candid acknowledgement that the laws of “Merry Olde Liberal England” dealt with this situation in a just and conscientious manner, and his retraction of the term “Bizzaro [_sic_] World thinking”. He won’t. He is upset that the police had the audacity to not just take the homeowner’s word for it. In his world, the guy standing over the dead body with the weapon gets to make up any story he wants, and is required to be believed. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/535 "2018-04-06T20:32:09Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > In his world, the guy standing over the dead body with the weapon gets to make up any story he wants, and is required to be believed. Ahem, you mean the _married heterosexual elderly white guy with photographs of him doing regular-guy stuff like drinking beer and shooting guns_ standing over the dead body with the weapon. When, say, [a black transgender woman is charged with murder in a fatal stabbing that she says was self-defense](https://mic.com/articles/173130/trans-woman-facing-murder-charges-says-she-was-acting-in-self-defense#.K6UV5GAeG), **Starving Artist** ’s outrage on behalf of stalwart heroes being persecuted by the evil liberal criminal-loving legal system because they offed a baddie is nowhere to be found. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/536 "2018-04-06T20:38:35Z")
Anyway, fuck **Starving Artist** , not every thread that he shits in should become about him. Here’s a link to the MSD school newspaper special edition commemorating their dead friends: > **[Special Issue: In Memoriam](https://issuu.com/melissafalkowski4/docs/memorial_full_issue)** > > Volume 3, Number 3 - April 2018. Special Issue of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School's The Eagle Eye to memorialize the 17 students and faculty members lost on Feb. 14, 2018. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/537 "2018-04-07T18:51:04Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > Bump stocks and silencers bans are meaningless. Really, they will do nothing. Niether will background checks or gun registers. How many of the previous mass shooters had backgrounds that would have precluded them from buying or owning or living with people who have guns? None. Gun registeration is a big fat joke. Can you explain to me how that prevents shootings? > > I like guns. > > But if you want to prevent these mass shootings here’s what you have to do. Two choices. > > 1. Ban all semi-automatic weapons > > OR > > 1. Change gun culture. Dramatically. Guns have to be locked up at all times when not in use. Police can come and inspect that your guns are locked up. If your guns are not locked up that is a criminal offence and you lose your right to own firearms. That’s a fair question. Banning bump stocks is directly related to the Las Vegas shooter, though. As far as banning semi-autos, fine. I have one, a semi-auto .22 rifle with a tube magazine under the barrel. If they are banned, that’s just the breaks. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/538 "2018-04-07T18:54:40Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > That is strange considering he probably thinks there was no prostitution before the hippy revolution of '68. No weed or acid, or downers neither 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/539 "2018-04-08T01:07:34Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > That is strange considering he probably thinks there was no prostitution before the hippy revolution of '68. No, he knows there were prostitutes, but they were “bad girls” who “got into trouble” and they had the common decency to understand that they were trash and to stay away from decent folk. This is the problem with calling for more conservative sexual standards: the way they were enforced was by literally throwing away people–by kicking pregnant daughters out onto the street as examples to others, by letting rape go unpunished because girls couldn’t risk anyone finding out it happened, by condemning girls and women who didn’t have men to protect them, vigilante style, to constant vulnerability to abuse and attack, by minimizing child sexual abuse because it was too scandalous to believe and too likely to ruin the life of the victim if their soiled status became widely known, etc. etc. There are real advantages to a more sexually conservative culture. There are lots of disadvantages as well. But I think it’s dishonest to pretend that the sexually conservative culture of the 1950s wasn’t paid for by the utter destruction and lifetime humiliation of girls and women who were labeled early as sluts or whores–be that because they transgressed, or were the victims of predatory men or even just unfounded rumor based on class, appearance, or just particular social dynamics. Those girls became the object lessons that kept the rest in line. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-school-shooting-stoneman-douglas-2-14-2018/808843/540 "2018-05-18T14:21:35Z")
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