# Another SDMB fantasy football league

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 2, 2006, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055 "2006-08-02T19:23:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/341 "2006-12-22T03:44:43Z")

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[QUOTE=SenorBeef]  
Question: When calculating defense scores, do “points allowed” include stuff like defensive touchdowns? I’m starting GB, and it looked like Green Bay might shut Minnesota out, but Minnesota just scored off an interception return. Does that count against me?  
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No, it doesn’t count against your defense. You still get credit for a shutout.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/342 "2006-12-22T04:22:16Z")

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Great. Well, 15 points, that was more than I was expecting to get out of GB. Good start.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/343 "2006-12-22T19:54:30Z")

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Gah!

Green Bay defense, points allowed, 1.

1!

The extra point on the defensive touchdown.

Going from a shutout to 1 point cost me 3 points.

And Minnesota, my regular defense, that was heavily considering starting, came up with 7 more points. ☹

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**Author:** ![Tazmanian\_Devil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@Tazmanian\_Devil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tazmanian_Devil)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2006, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/344 "2006-12-23T13:36:11Z")

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[QUOTE=SenorBeef]  
Aside from Isotopes taking the #6 seed over Court Jesters, and Kiros and Gridbirds flipping (but not mattering, as they played the same game), which I said was a very strong probability, I’ve been right on with my playoff predictions.

So, I would officially like to change my prediction to me winning this week’s game.

Except.. that previously, I’ve been talking up my opponent, and then having them underperform… so…

Um… I win.. no… Taz crushes me.. no… I win… which irrational superstition do I go with?

Well, I was slightly wrong about the prediction, but I’ve won both playoff games, so…

Taz is gonna crush me. LT is going to score enough points to set a new season scoring record IN ONE GAME. His score will be so high that yahoo’s servers will break doing the math.

Marc Bulger will put up 800 yards before he’s taken out of the game due to extreme exhaustion.

And Westbrook… well, not everyone is going to survive what he does.  
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😃 And here I thought Lou Holtz was the king of talking up their opponents.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/345 "2006-12-23T20:33:38Z")

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What do I do with my flex spot?

Of course, I’m not sure it’s already not written in stone I lose by 2.5 points, making that stupid extra point given up by the green bay defense the critical factor in the game.

I pretty much have to take MJD against NE for my RB. He has produced, Fred is probably out, and even though I normally don’t like to fuck with the NE D, he can have a big day.

So, options for my flex:

Addai (q) vs Hou. If there was no injury question, he’d be my starter. Good matchup, good production. But even though he practiced Friday and is expected to play (missed practices with a sprained ankle), that might mean he only gets a few carries. If he does play at full strength, though, he’s my best option.

Parker vs Bal. Well, he’s at home, so he probably won’t suck as bad as last time, but he’s against Bal. I see his ceiling being about 100/1, with something like 70/0 not unlikely. Then again, he can pull out unlikely big games.

McAlister at NYG. He’s had the carries the last few weeks, and has put up solid, but not spectacular days.

Donte Stallworth at Dal. Inconsistent, but I expect that game to be hard fought and he might have a big game.

Braylon Edwards vs Tam. Edwards has scored the last 3 weeks, against much better defense

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/346 "2006-12-23T20:34:39Z")

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My cat managed to make me hit the post button.

Braylon Edwards vs Tam. Edwards has scored the last 3 weeks, against much better defenses. Derrick Anderson is a QB with the arm to get him the ball deep. I haven’t started a WR in my flex spot for a long time, but he may end up being the top scorer.

What do you guys think?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2006, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/347 "2006-12-24T09:20:25Z")

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It looks like Fred Taylor is hurt, and NE’s defense is banged up. I’m hoping MJD can be my answer to LT - he’s capable of having a huge day.

Looks like I’m going with Manning/Harrison/Housh/MJD/McAlister. I need a big day from Manning, preferably to Harrison, a solid day from McAlister, and MJD needs to be my star.

If someone can post the scores after the first set of games, I’d appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/348 "2006-12-24T15:55:50Z")

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I’ll be out all day trying to catch as much football as possible while not TOTALLY ignoring the family holiday gathering - okay, who am I kidding, I’m going to be glued to the TV and pissed off that I’m away from my precious HD just to make some family members I see twice a year happy about my “presence” 😛 Either way, though, I won’t be able to post any score updates today, so hopefully one of the others can get you caught up.

Good luck to both of the championship game participants… may the best fake football man win, or something.

P.S. Not TOO good luck to MJD, he is allowed to score just enough so that the Pats still win!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/349 "2006-12-24T16:30:23Z")

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I’ll make you a deal. Pats win 54-49, with Jones-Drew scoring 7 touchdowns.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/350 "2006-12-24T16:50:46Z")

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Ugh, I’m doing my weekly flip flop thing where I keep hanging decisions every 3 minutes before I finally have to settle on one before I go to the bar.

Most of the time I’ve sat Parker based on matchup, it has come to bite me in the ass.

But the Ravens have only allowed 5 rushing TDs all year, and 3 of them in the Titans game. Which was also the last rushing TD they allowed, even a month ago.

Even LT got less than 100 and no TDs against them.

Pittsburgh is starting to click, though, and Parker is good at home, and… and… ahh!!!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2006, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/351 "2006-12-25T00:55:31Z")

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Anyone happen to have the scores?

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2006, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/352 "2006-12-25T01:09:32Z")

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Just got home. You’re up 129.90-81.62 after today’s games. So you have a pretty good chance, unless Westbrook and Wes Welker both go off. I’m down about 50 in the third place game, because no one other than Rudi decided to show up this week. I’m also $160 richer thanks largely to Marc Bulger and Ladell Betts, though, so all is well in the world.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2006, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/353 "2006-12-25T01:14:09Z")

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Ah, you just beat me to doing it myself. My numbers were a bit off:

manning 26.2  
harrison 23.2  
housh 15.4  
mjd 29.2  
mcalister 18.2  
winslow 2.7  
scobee 3  
GB 12

129.9

Bulger 39.52  
Andre Johnson 4.8  
Tomlinson 13.3  
gates 6.3  
kaeding 10  
Chi 5

Still to play: Wes Welker, Brian Westbrook

78.92  
If you’d have told me Bulger would outscore Manning by 14 but I’d still be in it… well, it would sound pretty unlikely.

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**Author:** ![Tazmanian\_Devil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@Tazmanian\_Devil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tazmanian_Devil)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2006, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/354 "2006-12-25T12:18:37Z")

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Well, unless I get a Christmas miracle ala George Bailey in ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’, Senor Beef will win the title. I knew I was in trouble when:

1. I saw Maurice Jones-Drew’s performance
2. I saw that Marvin Harrison woke up yesterday
3. Tomlinson didn’t get into the end zone
4. Chicago’s defense perfomed like crap against a supposed sickly Detroit offense.

This happened to me last year in Fanball where I was riding the LT express, only for him to perform slightly below average in the title game. Ah, well…it didn’t help that the team I was playing last year had both Shaun Alexander AND Larry Johnson (OUCH!).

Anyway, I am offering early congratulations to Senor Beef for finally stopping the juggernaut, and I hope to see you all in the same league next year.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/355 "2006-12-25T14:22:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Tazmanian Devil]  
[…]I hope to see you all in the same league next year.  
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How about all but one? I want in on the action, dammit!

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**Author:** ![Tazmanian\_Devil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@Tazmanian\_Devil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tazmanian_Devil)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/356 "2006-12-25T15:17:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Ellis Dee]  
How about all but one? I want in on the action, dammit!  
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I’m wondering if next year, there could be a way to fool with the number of teams to allow more of us to join. I know in the Yahoo hockey league I’m in, we have 18 teams. If Yahoo could allow football to do this, it would be a very nice thing. Or, if that’s not possible, perhaps we could look into another free site that allows the commish to set the number of teams to fit requests to join.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/357 "2006-12-25T16:02:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Tazmanian Devil]  
I’m wondering if next year, there could be a way to fool with the number of teams to allow more of us to join. I know in the Yahoo hockey league I’m in, we have 18 teams. If Yahoo could allow football to do this, it would be a very nice thing. Or, if that’s not possible, perhaps we could look into another free site that allows the commish to set the number of teams to fit requests to join.  
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We actually did 16 teams in this very league last year, and we regularly do 18 in the SDMB Baseball League. It certainly makes for a completely different balance, but it’s still very fun (sometimes even more so - though if you think LT was imbalanced in THIS league, imagine him in a much larger one). Either way though, the big thing is someone has to get the league created (and draft spot reserved) early enough to get that many teams together. So… just make sure that we get it up early next year and we can probably go big if we all want to.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2006, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/358 "2006-12-25T18:37:42Z")

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I think 18 is the max amount of teams Yahoo allows.  
Early congratulations **SenorBeef** on The championship.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/359 "2006-12-25T20:22:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Ellis Dee]  
How about all but one? I want in on the action, dammit!  
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There were a few people who stopped playing in mid-season, you could take one of their places.  
I was thinking of starting a thread next year, a week or two before Yahoo fantasy football opened, and discussing as a group what the best fantasy league settings would be. We could come to a consensus on numbers, rules, etc. And I was hoping to make it so that only people really interested in fantasy football would sign up to that league, so we wouldn’t have 3-4 people who didn’t bother to adjust their rosters for most of the season, etc. As you all know, that bugs me a lot, especially if a roster is half-injured or empty, giving one side a free win.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2006, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/367055/360 "2006-12-25T20:29:33Z")

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Frankly, by the way, I’m amazed at how much my team stepped up for the playoffs. It wasn’t just one fluke day that put me up there, or really bad days by my opponents, but in each game I just completely blew up. My playoff scores were 143.82, 124.28, 129.90. Those are probably 3 of the top 10 highest scores all year. The second highest score in all of the playoffs was 103.78, so I couldn’t have lost any matchup.

To toot my own horn, I only made one mistake with my roster decisions (Addai over Parker last week) - and since I was deciding every week on MJD, McAlister, Parker, Addai, Maroney, Stallworth, Edwards, that’s pretty good. As well as some kick ass free agent defense pickups. Actually, 2 mistakes - Vernon Davis outperformed Winslow this week.

I am curious, though - why did you leave Mike Furrey on the bench? Didn’t like the matchup?

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