# Another sovereign citizen embarasses self in public, offers to stop police chase for $300,000
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [December 12, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826 "2012-12-12T14:34:29Z")
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### Author:  [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/1 "2012-12-12T14:34:29Z")
[http://www.wistv.com/story/20310937/911-300000-thats-my-offer-im-asking-you-to-accept-it](http://www.wistv.com/story/20310937/911-300000-thats-my-offer-im-asking-you-to-accept-it)
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> “My mother named me Jenna and that’s the only name I have. That is my name. My name is what I say it is and I approve this message,” she told the operator.
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> Just moments after “approving her message” you can hear officers yelling at Herring to “get on the ground!”
Article also notes that “Jenna”, I suppose not “JENNA”, has also been Facebook stalking a deputy after a DWI charge for which she failed to appear and on this occasion is charged with DWI, felony fleeing to elude arrest, driving while license revoked, careless and reckless driving and driving left of center. Like a boss. (Sorry. Like a sovereign.)
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/2 "2012-12-12T14:42:01Z")
> [@Zsofia](#):
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> [http://www.wistv.com/story/20310937/911-300000-thats-my-offer-im-asking-you-to-accept-it](http://www.wistv.com/story/20310937/911-300000-thats-my-offer-im-asking-you-to-accept-it)
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> At the time, the woman was being chased by deputies through Supply.
And making Demands. 😃
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/3 "2012-12-12T14:50:49Z")
I notice she also doesn’t recognize the authority of the police to tell her to face right during mug shots, either.
We really need to find some worthless hunk of land to dump all these “sovereigns” in. North Dakota, maybe. Wall it off and let them suffer the logical conclusion to their delusions. If nothing else it would make for “Must-See” TV.
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### Author:  [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/4 "2012-12-12T15:23:37Z")
It’s funny in the abstract. Not so funny and dangerous if you have to deal with these nut jobs in person.
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### Author:  [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/5 "2012-12-12T15:46:45Z")
> [@silenus](#):
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> North Dakota, maybe.
North Dakota has too many nukes.
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### Author:  [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/6 "2012-12-12T16:04:16Z")
The cops should have taken her offer. It was a bargain. I charge $500,000 to stop and another $200,00 to answer questions.
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### Author:  [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/7 "2012-12-12T16:10:59Z")
> [@Telemark](#):
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> North Dakota has too many nukes.
Wyoming? Or maybe work out a deal with our northern friends and put them in Yukon?
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### Author:  [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/8 "2012-12-12T16:16:41Z")
> [@Loach](#):
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> It’s funny in the abstract. Not so funny and dangerous if you have to deal with these nut jobs in person.
Three of the nut jobs were actually [acquitted](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/3-sovereign-citizens-acquitted-in-dekalb/nSndR/) here not long ago, bafflingly enough, despite admitting to their acts (which included taking possession of foreclosed homes and in one case, an entire shopping mall using forged deeds) and despite acting as their own counsel in the trial, the traditional “fool for a client” scenario. Not sure if the jury wasn’t convinced that racketeering applied, or it was a case of nullification, or they were just complete fucking idiots, but there you have it. Breaking into vacant homes and businesses and claiming ownership apparently isn’t a crime, just like the “sovereign citizens” claim.
A few of the others in the same ring had already pled guilty, and I presume are kicking themselves now.
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### Author:  [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/9 "2012-12-13T02:50:44Z")
> [@silenus](#):
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> I notice she also doesn’t recognize the authority of the police to tell her to face right during mug shots, either.
There’s a hand reaching in and holding her in place for the full-face shot, too…
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### Author:  [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/10 "2012-12-13T03:06:41Z")
Oh yay, it’s from Myrtle Beach. :rolleyes: Go South Carolina!
Fucknuts, the lot of them. Totally batshit.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/11 "2012-12-13T03:43:49Z")
If a moron like Jeniffer Herring want to declare herself the sovereign republic of Jenna, then she should accept the consequences. She surrenders all her legal rights as an American citizen. She’s just a tiny little country and the only rights she has are those she can support for themselves against the United States, which is a really big country.
I’m guessing it’ll be a short war.
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### Author:  [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/12 "2012-12-13T04:39:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I’m guessing it’ll be a short war.
I remember several years ago some nutball group of secessionists in Texas were in the news making angry arguments that Texas was never legally admitted to the Union and they should be allowed to secede with their little compound. My argument was that we should go ahead and allow it - then declare war, conquer and annex their little compound-sized country. Problem solved :).
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/13 "2012-12-13T04:45:41Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> I remember several years ago some nutball group of secessionists in Texas were in the news making angry arguments that Texas was never legally admitted to the Union and they should be allowed to secede with their little compound. My argument was that we should go ahead and allow it - then declare war, conquer and annex their little compound-sized country. Problem solved :).
Even better, not allow free travel into the now foreign country of Texas. Passports, visas, customs searches, the whole thing.
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### Author:  [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/14 "2012-12-13T04:51:21Z")
> [@Lasciel](#):
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> Oh yay, it’s from Myrtle Beach. :rolleyes: Go South Carolina!
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> Fucknuts, the lot of them. Totally batshit.
Redneck Riviera
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### Author:  [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/15 "2012-12-13T06:43:10Z")
Holy shit, I know that whole area. Those people are nutbars, the lot of them.
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### Author:  [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/16 "2012-12-13T07:00:10Z")
My favorite part
Officer: Get out the car mam.
BSCwoman: Is that a request or a demand?
Officer: Actually it is a demand. Get out of the car.
BSCwoman: I conditionally accept on the basis
Office: Get out of the car and shut up.
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### Author:  [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/17 "2012-12-13T10:40:58Z")
Holy crap. These people don’t really get that whole ‘living in a society’ thing, do they?
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/18 "2012-12-13T10:50:54Z")
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> My name is what I say it is and I approve this message.
I wasn’t aware McCain-Feingold was now part of the FotL canon.
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### Author:  [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/19 "2012-12-13T13:44:38Z")
> [@Gedd](#):
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> Wyoming? Or maybe work out a deal with our northern friends and put them in Yukon?
They don’t do too well here in the Great White: _Meads v. Meads_, 2012 ABQB 571 (CanLII), \<[http://canlii.ca/t/fsvjq](http://canlii.ca/t/fsvjq)\>.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2012, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/20 "2012-12-13T14:07:42Z")
> [@Gedd](#):
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> Wyoming? Or maybe work out a deal with our northern friends and put them in Yukon?
Alcatraz, and cut off boat service.
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