# Another sovereign citizen embarasses self in public, offers to stop police chase for $300,000 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 12, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826 "2012-12-12T14:34:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/21 "2012-12-13T14:36:17Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > [http://www.wistv.com/story/20310937/911-300000-thats-my-offer-im-asking-you-to-accept-it](http://www.wistv.com/story/20310937/911-300000-thats-my-offer-im-asking-you-to-accept-it) > > Article also notes that “Jenna”, I suppose not “JENNA”, has also been Facebook stalking a deputy after a DWI charge for which she failed to appear and on this occasion is charged with DWI, felony fleeing to elude arrest, driving while license revoked, careless and reckless driving and driving left of center. Like a boss. (Sorry. Like a sovereign.) And yet another wacko subculture comes to my attention, whether I want to know about it or not. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/22 "2012-12-13T16:17:08Z")
Oh, but sovereign citizens are funny. Just wait until she goes to court and tries to convince someone that their arrest is for Jennifer Herring and she’s :JENNA OF THE FAMILY - HERRING: or something equally silly. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/23 "2012-12-13T16:33:46Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > “My mother named me Jenna and that’s the only name I have. That is my name. My name is what I say it is and I approve this message,” she told the operator. I wonder if this is the Truther who goes by “Just Jenna” on the IMDb boards. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/24 "2012-12-13T16:41:47Z")
I’ll give her points for being well rehearsed with her comments and demands - ---
**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/25 "2012-12-13T17:25:49Z")
Saw one in traffic court yesterday. What a show. This asshole stood there for over an hour fighting a speeding ticket. Would not confirm his name. Would not confirm he was in the car. Would not admit he was blazing a doobie in the parking lot before court. His ranting and behavior were unbelievable. The whole court was laughing at him the whole time. It was clear that he was mentally ill, had a 5th grade education, hated all authority, and he was belligerent as hell. It seems to apply to all of the Sovereign Citizens that I’ve met. In the end, he was found guilty of speeding and the judge gave him 3 options: pay the 186, work it off, or go to jail. Since he doesn’t “utilize federal reserve notes” and he was opposed to slavery, the judge gave him 4 days in jail. The cops - who were all standing very near the whole time - moved in and cuffed him with some argument, but not what I wanted to see. He didn’t fuss enough to get tasered, but a guy can dream, can’t he? 😃 Sidenote: the soulpatch hipster next to me was whispering to his GF the whole time. Turns out he was there for pot, coke, and stolen goods that were only found after he got caught speeding. He had spoken to the solicitor, and he was facing heavy fines and probation. So, as soon as they got out of there, the first thing he was going to do was fire one up. She complained, but he said “what can I do? I’ve got a pound of that shit in the car!” I took a moment during recess to inform the nearest cop that Shaggy in the green sweater may just have considerable weed in his car. He smiled and told me they already knew. He pointed out the window to drug-sniffing dogs in the parking lot. Because of Sam Not Kennedy. Hipster just got caught in the net.😃 Then I had hot wings for lunch. It was a good day! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/26 "2012-12-13T17:48:21Z")
I’m conflicted, because I don’t usually condone narcing on someone for marijuana… but you did say “soul patch,” didn’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/27 "2012-12-13T18:11:12Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I’m conflicted, because I don’t usually condone narcing on someone for marijuana… but you did say “soul patch,” didn’t you? I consider it “narking on stupidity”, and salute **ducati**. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/28 "2012-12-13T19:11:21Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > If a moron like Jeniffer Herring want to declare herself the sovereign republic of Jenna, . . . . That’s giving me an Oglaf flashback. This may be a paraphrase: “What does a principality have to do to get recognition around here?” Folks familiar with Oglaf know why there will be no link provided. It is so very not safe for work. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/29 "2012-12-13T19:17:25Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > That’s giving me an Oglaf flashback. This may be a paraphrase: “What does a principality have to do to get recognition around here?” > > Folks familiar with Oglaf know why there will be no link provided. It is so very not safe for work. Sanctuary! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/30 "2012-12-13T19:20:34Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I consider it “narking on stupidity”, and salute **ducati**. Arm straight, good palm elevation… you’ve been practicing! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/31 "2012-12-13T19:27:41Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Arm straight, good palm elevation… you’ve been practicing! And that’s dispite the fact that I was in the U.S.A.F. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/32 "2012-12-13T20:05:28Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > I suppose not “JENNA”, has also been Facebook stalking a deputy after a DWI charge As I said in the FARK comments thread, he should present her with a bill for $300k “per incident” for her stalking. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/33 "2012-12-13T20:43:16Z")
Sovereign Citizens? I just read up on this. Is there anything at all in the universe that can’t be found on Wikipedia now? Anyway, I truly had never heard of this ummm, movement before. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/34 "2012-12-13T21:14:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > If a moron like Jeniffer Herring want to declare herself the sovereign republic of Jenna, then she should accept the consequences. She surrenders all her legal rights as an American citizen. She’s just a tiny little country and the only rights she has are those she can support for themselves against the United States, which is a really big country. > > I’m guessing it’ll be a short war. No need for a war. She has Diplomatic Immunity. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/35 "2012-12-13T22:28:28Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I notice she also doesn’t recognize the authority of the police to tell her to face right during mug shots, either. Yeah, that’s just fucking ridiculous. Funny for the third party observer, but kinda sucks for the law enforcement dealing with it. > [@handsomeharry](#): > > No need for a war. She has Diplomatic Immunity. But where do we deport her? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/36 "2012-12-13T22:37:29Z")
We don’t need to transport her to another country. We just boat her off the coast out to the 200 mile limit and drop her off there, in International Waters. What happens to her at that point is none of our concern. If she returns to US soil, we do it again, advising that force is now authorized to prevent her illegal entry into the US. ---
**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/37 "2012-12-13T22:43:11Z")
Refused for fraud without dishonor. UCC 3-322. All replies must be addressed to .robert\_COLUMBIA@identity ---
**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/38 "2012-12-13T22:44:18Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > And making Demands. 😃 We can extradite her to Maryland, then stick her in Parole. ---
**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/39 "2012-12-14T00:09:08Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I’m conflicted, because I don’t usually condone narcing on someone for marijuana… but you did say “soul patch,” didn’t you? 😃 Plus he had a ponytail. Nothin but douche! Even when I was a cop, if I saw someone smoking a joint at home, or sitting under a tree in the park, I wouldn’t say anything. There’s worse things in the world. However, when you get behind the wheel around me, your head better be pretty fucking clear. I don’t need Cheech bangin into my ride, yo!😉 ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826/40 "2012-12-14T01:00:10Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > We don’t need to transport her to another country. We just boat her off the coast out to the 200 mile limit and drop her off there, in International Waters. I think you might be on to something there, provided that you simply strip her down and toss her overboard rather than leave the dingy in a dingy. Although the USA is bound by the 1972 Convention on the Prevention of Marine Pollution by Dumping of Wastes and Other Matter (it has not yet signed on to the 1996 London Protocol), the convention explicitly permits the dumping of organic material of natural origin (Annex 1 re. Article 4). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-sovereign-citizen-embarasses-self-in-public-offers-to-stop-police-chase-for-300-000/643826.md?page=3)