# Another thread about TV credits **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 2, 2022, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-thread-about-tv-credits/957062 "2022-01-02T03:11:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-thread-about-tv-credits/957062/1 "2022-01-02T03:11:45Z")
I’ve been watching a long-running TV series and for some reason, I’ve recently started reading the end credits. As usual, there are half a dozen Executive Producers and one Co-Executive Producer, five or six Producers, one Co-Producer, and one ‘Produced By’ credit. I have no problem with the number of producers, and realize that credits are negotiated as part of a person’s contract, but what could possibly be the difference between a Producer credit, a Co-Producer credit, and a Produced By credit? Is there any actual difference or is it all pretty meaningless and just a matter of oneupmanship? ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-thread-about-tv-credits/957062/2 "2022-01-02T03:35:41Z")
There’s a hierarchy of TV writer credits, many of which have “producer” in the name. So listing everyone in the writers room makes it looks like there are a bunch of producers. Movie producers are a totally different animal. 1. Executive Producer (the showrunner) 2. Executive Producer (any other non-showrunner EPs) 3. Co-Executive Producer 4. Supervising Producer 5. Producer 6. Co-Producer 7. Story Editor 8. Staff Writer > **[TV witer/producer credits indicate what level the writer is. | Screenwriting.io](https://screenwriting.io/what-is-the-television-writerproducer-pecking-order/)** > > The different TV writer/producer credits correspond to what level writer they are -- where they fall on the pecking order. ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-thread-about-tv-credits/957062/3 "2022-01-02T03:38:35Z")
Thanks, hogarth, but then how does someone get a Produced By credit, and how is that different from a Supervising Producer, Producer, or Co-Producer? My guess is that’s it’s no different. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-thread-about-tv-credits/957062/4 "2022-01-02T07:38:29Z")
Different producers have different roles to play, such as financing, creative input, power on set, etc, but it’s not a one-to-one definition with the descriptive title. An actor who is a producer has say over their character’s portrayal, and may feel some obligation to be a role model on set, but that doesn’t mean they need a special title for that. It is, as you surmised, about divvying things up during the contract negotiations. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-thread-about-tv-credits/957062/5 "2022-01-02T20:24:10Z")
> [@dolphinboy](#): > > Thanks, hogarth, but then how does someone get a Produced By credit, and how is that different from a Supervising Producer, Producer, or Co-Producer? As noted, Supervising Producer, Producer and Co-Producer are job titles for TV writers. For example, the IMDb credits for The Good Place include: [Jen Statsky](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4278387/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr11) … co-executive producer / co-producer / producer / supervising producer (50 episodes, 2016-2020) Jen Statsky is a TV writer (Parks & Rec, Broad City, The Good Place, Hacks, etc.) and you can see she started out as a Co-Producer on The Good Place in Season 1 and got a promotion with each following year, ending up as a Co-Executive Producer (“Co-EP”) which is a job title for a senior writer. She’s listed as the primary writer (“Written By” credit) on 7 episodes, but she was part of the writer’s room contributing on all four seasons. The “Produced By” credit presumably refers to someone involved in the production in a non-writing capacity. Do you have a specific example? ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-thread-about-tv-credits/957062/6 "2022-01-02T20:48:20Z")
curb your enthusiasm… Director Robert B. Weide Executive Producer Larry David (show creator and reoccurring role) Executive Producer Jeff Garlin (reoccurring role) Executive Producer Gavin Palone (producer only) Co-Executive Producer Robert B. Weide (director and executive producer) Produced by Tim Gibbons (producer only) Co-Producer Erin O’Malley (producer only) Consulting Producer Alan Zweibel (producer only) None of these producers has a writing credit for the show listed in IMDB. ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-thread-about-tv-credits/957062/7 "2022-01-02T22:47:58Z")
Actually, Larry David has a writer credit for curb, but none of the other executive producers do. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-thread-about-tv-credits/957062/8 "2022-01-03T04:26:58Z")
> [@dolphinboy](#): > > Produced by Tim Gibbons Looks like Mr Gibbons’s other credits for Curb are the standard TV writing type of credits (Producer, Co-EP, Executive Producer). I’m not sure why it changed to “Produced By” for 2004 only. > **[Tim Gibbons | Television Academy](https://www.emmys.com/bios/tim-gibbons)** > > Tim Gibbons: bio, photos, awards, nominations and more at Emmys.com.