# Another Top Clinton Campaign Manager Resigns: Is this the beginning of the end? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 13, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387 "2008-02-13T02:23:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/1 "2008-02-13T02:23:03Z")
From NBC and Washington Post: > [@](#): > > Clinton’s campaign manager resigned over the weekend, and NBC News confirmed Tuesday a Washington Post report that deputy campaign manager Mike Henry resigned Monday. With the Potomac Primaries dissolving in front of her eyes, is her viability slowly slipping away? If Obama really slams home tonight and WI and HI does Hillary really have a chance? Additionally, this: > [@](#): > > Interviews with voters leaving the polls in Virginia showed Obama drawing strong support across race and gender lines, indicating that he was eating into Clinton’s voter base. Further broadening his chances in Texas and Ohio on March 4th… I really wonder what the Clinton machine can do…The interesting sidenote to this is the video on people leaving the polls in VA. Jake Tapper of ABC news was targeting those who _should_ be solidly in Clinton’s Camp i.e. women over 50 and latinos. Out of 4 street interviews 3 said they changed their stance on Hillary and are coming out in support of change - Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/2 "2008-02-13T02:26:12Z")
Heh! [beat you by 1 minute](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9469723&posted=1#post9469723) (though in an existing thread). 🙂 Yeah, she’s toast. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/3 "2008-02-13T02:27:05Z")
Is this Mike Henry Latino? (Hardly seems to matter otherwise . . .) ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/4 "2008-02-13T02:30:37Z")
[QUOTE=Phlosphr] Is this the beginning of the end? [/QUOTE] Let us hope so. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/5 "2008-02-13T02:31:09Z")
Rats, ships…it’s all good. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/6 "2008-02-13T02:39:17Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Is this Mike Henry Latino? (Hardly seems to matter otherwise . . .) [/QUOTE] Doesn’t matter if he’s latino, cajun, injun, or plaid - trusted campaign big-wig managers are leaving their posts. This just after a clean sweep by Obama in 8 states. That should not be happening in a well run, we’re-definitely-going-to-win-it campaign. Plain as plain can be. ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/7 "2008-02-13T04:06:37Z")
After being B\*tch Slapped by Obama in the last 8 states, what will we be seeing out of Hillary over the next week? [ul] [li]More of the New Hampshire tears? [/li][li]More personal Obama attacks?[/li][li]More finger wagging by Bill?[/li][/ul] If the Clinton camp has a last gasp bomb, they might be down to having to pull the trigger on it. ---
**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/8 "2008-02-13T04:22:29Z")
Even if Obama is more liberal than I would prefer I will not cry when Hillary is defeated. ---
**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nameless)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/9 "2008-02-13T05:23:35Z")
Please don’t do this. Clinton is, as she said, “in it to win it,” and the Obama people need to not get complacent here. Ohio and Texas are coming up, and Obama is behind in polls in both places. And there’s still the possibility that the Democratic Party itself could throw a wrench in the works if he doesn’t build up a big enough delegate lead, either by seating the FL and MI delegates or by swinging superdelegates around. Keep donating, stay on the phones, and knock on some more doors (if you’re in a state that still has a primary coming up). And for the love of all that is holy, go to the polls and bring friends. It’s not over yet. ETA: I don’t want to rain on anybody’s parade, and I know nobody’s declared victory yet, I just hope people will stay focused. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/10 "2008-02-13T13:37:25Z")
[QUOTE=nameless] Please don’t do this. Clinton is, as she said, “in it to win it,” and the Obama people need to not get complacent here. Ohio and Texas are coming up, and Obama is behind in polls in both places. And there’s still the possibility that the Democratic Party itself could throw a wrench in the works if he doesn’t build up a big enough delegate lead, either by seating the FL and MI delegates or by swinging superdelegates around. Keep donating, stay on the phones, and knock on some more doors (if you’re in a state that still has a primary coming up). And for the love of all that is holy, go to the polls and bring friends. It’s not over yet. ETA: I don’t want to rain on anybody’s parade, and I know nobody’s declared victory yet, I just hope people will stay focused. [/QUOTE] If there is one thing the Obama campaign does very well, it’s staying focused. He is not under any dilusions, and has already hit the road full throttle. I’m not so sure Clinton’s campaign even has a last ditch, or if they do I’m not so sure it’ll mean much in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/11 "2008-02-13T16:37:24Z")
\>Please don’t do this. […] And for the love of all that is holy, go to the polls and bring friends. It’s not over yet. Yes, I must agree with this sentiment. I don’t think the Obama machine should get complacent. I didn’t like noticing the CNN Political Ticker headline saying something like “Obama campaign says Clinton can’t catch us”. I also think that voter complacency is a bigger risk than Obama’s campaign becoming complacent. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/12 "2008-02-13T16:39:57Z")
[QUOTE=Napier] \>Please don’t do this. […] And for the love of all that is holy, go to the polls and bring friends. It’s not over yet. Yes, I must agree with this sentiment. I don’t think the Obama machine should get complacent. I didn’t like noticing the CNN Political Ticker headline saying something like “Obama campaign says Clinton can’t catch us”. I also think that voter complacency is a bigger risk than Obama’s campaign becoming complacent. [/QUOTE] No no, they should go ahead and get complacent. I would be thrilled to be able to vote Clinton in November. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/13 "2008-02-13T16:47:34Z")
[QUOTE=Napier] I also think that voter complacency is a bigger risk than Obama’s campaign becoming complacent. [/QUOTE] [Steve Clemons](http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002853.php) provides a nice quote on that subject this morning: > [@](#): > > In 1988, voter turnout in the primary season hit a then-record of 35 million – 23 million of these were Democratic and 12 million Republican. > > And we’re not saying “President Dukakis”. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/14 "2008-02-13T16:54:24Z")
Obama supporters are not going to get complacent. Simply not going to happen - he reperesents more than just a cool guy running for office, he represents a movement of change - one the populace is willing to fight for this year. Complacency is not the biggest fear in my mind. The biggest fear in my mind is the Clinton’s doing some shady dealing with the superdelegates or with the DNC and getting the FL and MI delegates sat with no do-over. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/15 "2008-02-13T17:13:12Z")
[QUOTE=nameless] Ohio and Texas are coming up, and Obama is behind in polls in both places. [/QUOTE] I’ve been looking for recent (i.e. post Super Tuesday at least) poll numbers on this. Do you know where I can find them? -Kris ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/16 "2008-02-13T17:19:10Z")
Dial [www.pollster.com](http://www.pollster.com) for all your polling needs. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/17 "2008-02-13T17:21:08Z")
[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] Dial [www.pollster.com](http://www.pollster.com) for all your polling needs. [/QUOTE] Thanks for the link. Latest they have for Texas is from 1/31, and shows Clinton with a 15% lead. Ohio from 2/11 shows Clinton with a 22% lead. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/18 "2008-02-13T17:21:45Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] [Steve Clemons](http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002853.php) provides a nice quote on that subject this morning: [/QUOTE] Was the 1988 Republican primary as open as this one was? Seems to me that VP Bush was more of a done deal than McCain was. ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/19 "2008-02-13T17:24:36Z")
[QUOTE=Frylock] I’ve been looking for recent (i.e. post Super Tuesday at least) poll numbers on this. Do you know where I can find them? -Kris [/QUOTE] A great site for state-by-state polling and analysis is [electoral-vote.com](http://www.electoral-vote.com). They have a complete list of state primary polls [here](http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Data/Polls.html). ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387/20 "2008-02-13T17:41:31Z")
Non of those polls are up to date. People are watching this like a hawk and no one has been polled since tuesday’s massacre, so I’m not sure how accurate any of that is… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-top-clinton-campaign-manager-resigns-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/437387.md?page=2)