# Another triumph in race relations!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 26, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559 "2007-09-26T16:03:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/81 "2007-09-26T21:29:06Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
**Gytalf** No one disputes that some blacks are prejudiced. Of course they are! We, your Hebrew Masters, want it that way. Pawns of white and black fight each other while Jewish kings and queens laugh and rule uncontested.  
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Hehe…at a glance I thought it said, “laugh and rule, _uncircumcised_.” I was like, “No…wait, that’s wrong.” 😛

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/82 "2007-09-26T21:30:31Z")

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[QUOTE=gytalf2000]  
Go ahead, mock the guy whose experiences with blacks have been less than overwhelmingly positive, and chooses to report such incidents to the Straight Dope.  
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Okay, thanks. Now that we have your permission, we shall begin the mocking very soon.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/83 "2007-09-26T21:32:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
Okay, thanks. Now that we have your permission, we shall begin the mocking very soon.  
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Yep, any moment now.

_shuffles feet_

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/84 "2007-09-26T21:34:34Z")

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[QUOTE=gytalf2000]  
Well no, I have had some friends with the same type experiences.

And I have already stated that I know that all black people do not feel this way. I simply have known far more black people willing to do violence to whites than vice versa.  
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Well, I’ve known far more whites willing to do violence to blacks than vice versa. And I live in Oakland! The answer to “What’s black and glows in the dark?”!

And I’ve had even more friends than you who’ve had the exact opposite experiences! Check out their Black Supremacist website for video clips!

There. Glad that’s settled.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/85 "2007-09-26T21:40:22Z")

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**Anamika** You’re probably remembering [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6121766&postcount=7)

I am in fact a clown. I have a gig this weekend to stand outside a comic store and draw customers. I get to wear a motley terrycloth tail coat and stove pipe hat I made myself.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/86 "2007-09-26T21:40:49Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
**Anamika** You’re probably remembering [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6121766&postcount=7)

I am in fact a clown. I have a gig this weekend to stand outside a comic store and draw customers. I get to wear a motley terrycloth tail coat and stove pipe hat I made myself.  
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I fear and despise you. :eek: :mad:

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/87 "2007-09-26T21:46:01Z")

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[QUOTE=gytalf2000]  
Well no, I have had some friends with the same type experiences.  
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Really! Goodness. I don’t.

I have spent quite a lot of time in working class black areas in Tennessee. I felt OK, even with my honky cracker self-hating skin on.

I won’t deny I have seen some scary mofos there. I’ve also seen some scary white mofos in London. And scary Chinese people in China. What of it?

> [@](#):
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> I simply have known far more black people willing to do violence to whites than vice versa.

Your sample size is too small for you to make any decent conclusion. No white person I personally know has been beaten up by black people. So, am I to conclude that all black people are great? Well, no, of course not.

You yourself state that “…I know that all black people do not feel this way.”

So what in the name of fuck was the point of posting what you did in your OP?

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/88 "2007-09-26T21:46:15Z")

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I should have included, as I mention later on in that thread, neither story was intended to be taken seriously.

though there are women who, recognizing their natural gentile inferiority, do have Judaism fetishes.

I have yet to meet a hot woman with a clown fetish. Hope, however, springs eternal.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/89 "2007-09-26T21:55:14Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
I fear and despise you. :eek: :mad:  
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See? He inspires terror and awe in me.

Yes, I knew the story was fake. But he delivers things quite well and I was left thinking “That’s gotta be fake…it’s fake right?”

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/90 "2007-09-26T23:18:54Z")

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[QUOTE=gytalf2000]  
Well no, I have had some friends with the same type experiences.

And I have already stated that I know that all black people do not feel this way. I simply have known far more black people willing to do violence to whites than vice versa.  
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I am still dumbfounded you could be confused about what \*\*Giraffe \*\* posted, but moving on from that…

I grew up in a town that had around 60% whites and 35% blacks in the schools. Many of the blacks were from poor families that had been in the town for generations. Some of the black kids resented the whites suburban kids that were moving into the town or the army brats that would not be staying in the town. Some of these blacks would look for an excuse to beat up a smaller white kid. At the same time the overwhelming majority did not. Additionally, in one case when the smaller white kid that was about to be beat up was me, a friend, a black friend in fact, came to my defense and the other kids backed down. I never let my experience cause me to hate or fear blacks. I did allow my experience and a few others cause me to hate a few select punks that happened to be black. I also hated a pair of whites that were quite honestly nothing but dumb bullies.

It sucks that some blacks gave you a hard time. It sucks that this continues to happen to other people. It is a two way street. Sometimes it is racial; sometimes it is just punks or bullies picking out the weak or the loners to make themselves feel more important. I was lucky I guess, I had a lot of friends and I learned to avoid the punks and bullies in situations that would lead to me getting my ass kicked.

Some people are just punks, most are not.

You were mocked in this thread for being obtuse about obvious sarcasm and for linking to a very racist site to provide your cite. Also, I think for a little RO. Most posters don’t really like RO at this point.

Jim

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/91 "2007-09-26T23:32:41Z")

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[QUOTE=gytalf2000]  
Wow! Are you joking, Giraffe? I surely hope so!

(It can be hard to detect sarcasm over the internet.)

If you aren’t… well, I am truly saddened that you feel that way. That is just such a bizarre, racist sentiment.  
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[QUOTE=gytalf2000]  
That is just incredibly stupid.  
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Awww. **gytalf** eats Whoosh Toasties for breakfast!

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**Author:** ![Li\_l\_Pluck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee59a6/32.png) [@Li\_l\_Pluck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Li_l_Pluck)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/92 "2007-09-27T03:56:35Z")

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[QUOTE=gytalf2000]  
Well no, I have had some friends with the same type experiences.

And I have already stated that I know that all black people do not feel this way. I simply have known far more black people willing to do violence to whites than vice versa.  
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Well, godDAMN, my nizzle, where you hangin’ at?!

I’ve known Black people for all of my 37 years, and I’ve encountered \*maybe \* a handful who, as far as I could discern, would be willing to do violence to Whites for shits and giggles. Hell, even the Blacks who I’ve known to have full-on anti-White attitudes (very few, if you can believe it) weren’t quite that _meshug_.

Then, again, I’m Black, so you’ll of course take this for what it’s worth.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/93 "2007-09-27T04:43:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
Let me guess. Would this be related to the fact that the mainstream media is secretly controlled by members of a certain religious group? Do I win a prize if I guess which one?  
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It’s the Black Muslims, like that Osama-Obama guy, or whatever the hell his name is.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/94 "2007-09-27T04:50:07Z")

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I missed that before. What is this ‘secretly controlled’ business? We, your Yiddish overlords, _openly_ control the media!  
CNN=Cohen’s News Network  
ABC= Another Blumberg Company  
CBS= Challah Bread Systems  
NBC= Nusbaum Broadcast Center

Washington Post? New York Times? Wall Street Journal? All us

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/95 "2007-09-27T06:43:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
Shame on the black media conspiracy that keeps **gytalf2000** from hearing about every schoolyard fight in the country.

**gytalf** , you sound like an idiot. The black kids aren’t out to get you.  
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Why didn’t Ted Kopple tell the world!?

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/96 "2007-09-27T07:17:49Z")

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> **gytalf2000** : The time I got shoved down to the floor by the “sasquatch”-sized guy (he shot me a look of pure hatred), NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON said anything, helped me get to my feet, etc. If someone had done so, I would be more likely to pass the incident off as an isolated bullying incident.
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> It would have made a difference if some of the people I talked with were not so eager to dismiss any and all black-on-white crime as “just desserts”. Some of the students bragged about beating up whites!

And this was in graduate school at Tennessee State University? I find it difficult to believe that African-Americans only blocks away from where I taught high school for 20 years would be more likely to be filled with hatred and resentment towards whites than their teenage counterparts. In the high school these kids got along well. They even elected a white Student Body President.

What would make reasonably well-behaved students in high school get a degree from college and turn into racially bigoted terrorists along the way? If they’ve made it through four years of college, they’re motivated and focused. They are not going to be walking around campus looking for white meat.

I know this neighborhood. I know their families. I know their community leaders. Do not fabricate stories about them.

“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/97 "2007-09-27T09:21:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]  
I presume you mean \*some \* blacks, here, not all? **You** haven’t expressed one iota of sympathy for him, you idiot. Your OP clearly shows it’s the double standard - one you seem to have brought up with no evidence - that makes you sick. In _none of your posts in this thread so far_ have you even come close to expressing sympathy. No “wow, the poor kid”. So next time you want to bring up the “ZOMG all you people automatically on the black kid’s side! Sympathy for teh whites!” argument, you might want to, you know, actually express sympathy yourself. Hypocrite.  
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Yeah, aren’t racists funny when they try to apply their internal wierdo logic to the real world?

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/98 "2007-09-27T09:26:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Cat Fight]  
While your situation sounds horrible, did it not once foster any empathy in you for the number of black or hispanic students in predominantly white schools, predominantly white workplaces, predominantly white governments or predominantly white countries?  
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Probably not, because the vibe I get from him is that it was justified when the 6 white kids kicked my 15 year old ass years ago for daring to be a blck kid walking down the fucking street.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/99 "2007-09-27T12:30:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Jolly Roger]  
Yeah, aren’t racists funny when they try to apply their internal wierdo logic to the real world?  
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You say funny, I say sad and scary.

I got beat up by a couple of black kids in junior high school. It didn’t stop me from having a black man as my best man at my first wedding.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/100 "2007-09-27T13:00:18Z")

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AFAICT, we’ve skipped one obvious possibility - Blacks were beating him (gytalf) up because he’s personally a hateable shit. If he’d gone to Oxford, there’d be lily-white Dons dunking him in the Isis even now.

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