# Another triumph in race relations! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559 "2007-09-26T16:03:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/101 "2007-09-27T13:36:33Z")
[QUOTE=Sean Factotum] You say funny, I say sad and scary. I got beat up by a couple of black kids in junior high school. It didn’t stop me from having a black man as my best man at my first wedding. [/QUOTE] Well, I meant funny in a sad and scary way. I’m certainly not laughing about it. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/102 "2007-09-27T14:26:50Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] AFAICT, we’ve skipped one obvious possibility - Blacks were beating him (gytalf) up because he’s personally a hateable shit. If he’d gone to Oxford, there’d be lily-white Dons dunking him in the Isis even now. [/QUOTE] DING DING DING!!! We have a winner! I think **MrDibble** nailed it. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/103 "2007-09-27T14:29:13Z")
Color is on the skin; asshole goes to the bone. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/104 "2007-09-27T16:06:40Z")
The colon bone? The duodenum bone? ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/105 "2007-09-27T16:47:07Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] The colon bone? The duodenum bone? [/QUOTE] The trombone. Those guys are jerks. ---
**Author:** ![Li\_l\_Pluck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee59a6/32.png) [@Li\_l\_Pluck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Li_l_Pluck)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/106 "2007-09-27T18:38:57Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] AFAICT, we’ve skipped one obvious possibility - Blacks were beating him (gytalf) up because he’s personally a hateable shit. If he’d gone to Oxford, there’d be lily-white Dons dunking him in the Isis even now. [/QUOTE] Well, actually, I thought that many of us thought that very thing, and thinking that many of the others thought likewise, we just never got around to putting it out there. Not, mind you, that you were being unnecessarily superfluous in putting it down in pixels; the possibility might not, after all, had occured to the person who really needs to consider it–the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/107 "2007-09-27T21:32:04Z")
The OP forgets one of the most-cited rules of debate here at the SDMB: The plural of anecdote is not data. I’ve posted about Bluefield State and Langston, two historically Black colleges that have a majority of White students. Morehouse College elected Steven Schukei as vice-president of the student body about 10 years ago, and nobody kicked his ass because he was White. So you had a bad experience. Maybe you should do something, like look for research or studies that support your experience. Which would mean you would have to consider studies that are counter to your experience. I think you’d be hard pressed to find out that Black colleges are hotbeds of anti-White sentiment. As many have noted, there are racist, prejudiced, and hateful people of every race… sorry you ran into some of them. But the link to rampant racism among all Black people… well, I don’t see it, and nor do the overwhelming majority of people responding to the OP. Six-on-one fighting isn’t cool, regardless of what the kid said. The assailants are jerks, but jerkitude is pretty common among teenage boys. I’m not going to assume that the White kid said something to provoke the assailants, either. But it’s possible. Without significant context we just have teenagers being jerks to another teenager. I hope the kid who was attacked is okay, and the assailants are punished for what they did. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/108 "2007-09-27T21:41:41Z")
[QUOTE=Sean Factotum] I got beat up by a couple of black kids in junior high school. It didn’t stop me from having a black man as my best man at my first wedding. [/QUOTE] Some of your best men are black? > [@DocCathode](#): > > I am in fact a clown. I have a gig this weekend to stand outside a comic store and draw customers. I get to wear a motley terrycloth tail coat and stove pipe hat I made myself. Any tingle I got from the **Anaamika** story is long gone. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2007, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/109 "2007-09-27T23:14:41Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] Why would you think I was joking? It’s perfectly reasonable to abhor racism and violence directed at blacks while at the same time supporting racism and violence by blacks. That’s why I, like most white people, am strongly in favor of federal assistance to fund outreach programs to educate and inform black youths on the benefits to their self-image and position in society of kicking a white guy hard in the nuts. It just seems like the right thing to do. Are you telling me you wouldn’t support such a program? If so, what’s wrong with you? [/QUOTE] And that’s when I fell in love with **Giraffe**. 😉 > [@MrDibble](#): > > AFAICT, we’ve skipped one obvious possibility - Blacks were beating him (gytalf) up because he’s personally a hateable shit. If he’d gone to Oxford, there’d be lily-white Dons dunking him in the Isis even now. Seriously, **gytalf** , has it occurred to you that it’s not the majority of \*black \* people that don’t like you, it’s just _the majority of people_? And that maybe that’s because you’re kind of a tool? ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/110 "2007-09-28T12:24:59Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] Some of your best men are black? [/QUOTE] \< snerk \> and \< giggle \> Good one. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/111 "2007-09-28T12:30:49Z")
[QUOTE=Zoe] And this was in graduate school at Tennessee State University? I find it difficult to believe that African-Americans only blocks away from where I taught high school for 20 years would be more likely to be filled with hatred and resentment towards whites than their teenage counterparts. In the high school these kids got along well. They even elected a white Student Body President. What would make reasonably well-behaved students in high school get a degree from college and turn into racially bigoted terrorists along the way? If they’ve made it through four years of college, they’re motivated and focused. They are not going to be walking around campus looking for white meat. I know this neighborhood. I know their families. I know their community leaders. Do not fabricate stories about them. [/QUOTE] I have not fabricated any stories. I have merely related my experiences. I attended TSU from 1989-1992. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/112 "2007-09-28T12:43:08Z")
[QUOTE=DianaG] Seriously, **gytalf** , has it occurred to you that it’s not the majority of \*black \* people that don’t like you, it’s just _the majority of people_? And that maybe that’s because you’re kind of a tool? [/QUOTE] Well, actually, I have always gotten along with people very well (with the exception of some of the people at TSU). My experiences with blacks in high school and college were positive. I dated a very pretty and sweet black girl in college (David Lipscomb, 1979-1983) and we got along fabulously. We even had an amicable break-up. It was distressing to see people at TSU behave in an intimidating manner towards me (and some other whites). When I enrolled there, I never imagined that I would have such problems, because I just assumed that bad feelings between the races had pretty much dissipated. I learned differently! ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/113 "2007-09-28T12:51:01Z")
[QUOTE=Hippy Hollow] I’ve posted about Bluefield State and Langston, two historically Black colleges that have a majority of White students. Morehouse College elected Steven Schukei as vice-president of the student body about 10 years ago, and nobody kicked his ass because he was White. [/QUOTE] Wow! That is interesting, and very nice to hear about! Thanks for sharing that info. That does make me feel a lot better about race relations in general. You guys are right, and I was wrong. I was extrapolating my own experiences far too much. Sometimes it is hard to get past your own bad experiences, but this thread has helped a lot. Thanks to all who posted! I love the Straight Dope! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/114 "2007-09-28T17:20:08Z")
[QUOTE=gytalf2000] I dated a very pretty and sweet black girl in college (David Lipscomb, 1979-1983) and we got along fabulously. [/QUOTE] You dated a black girl named David Lipscomb? And she was _four_? You sick fuck! ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/115 "2007-09-28T17:36:29Z")
[QUOTE=gytalf2000] I’ve posted about Bluefield State and Langston, two historically Black colleges that have a majority of White students. Morehouse College elected Steven Schukei as vice-president of the student body about 10 years ago, and nobody kicked his ass because he was White. Wow! That is interesting, and very nice to hear about! Thanks for sharing that info. That does make me feel a lot better about race relations in general. You guys are right, and I was wrong. I was extrapolating my own experiences far too much. Sometimes it is hard to get past your own bad experiences, but this thread has helped a lot. Thanks to all who posted! I love the Straight Dope! [/QUOTE] Heh. It’s all in people. One of my best teachers ever was a young black man in college, who opened my eyes on a good many things. (Not that way, you perverts!) My parents are unbelievably racist; my mother told me she’d prefer I marry a Hindu but “If you ever marry a Muslim or a black just stab me to death with a knife.” Uh, thanks mom. Anyway I grew up with a lot of wrong ideas. You know what else I find? Black authors are very interesting reading to me as a non-white. I live (happily) in a country that’s mostly white and Christian, and while I could never share the same experiences as blacks (nor they mine) they know what it’s like to be a minority. I’m just trying to say that prejudices make you miss out on a lot of good things. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/116 "2007-09-28T18:07:41Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] You dated a black girl named David Lipscomb? And she was _four_? You sick fuck! [/QUOTE] Hey, this is the second pit thread where I have been called a “sick fuck”! Hooray! ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/117 "2007-09-28T19:41:25Z")
[QUOTE=Anaamika] Heh. It’s all in people. One of my best teachers ever was a young black man in college, who opened my eyes on a good many things. (Not that way, you perverts!) My parents are unbelievably racist; my mother told me she’d prefer I marry a Hindu but “If you ever marry a Muslim or a black just stab me to death with a knife.” Uh, thanks mom. Anyway I grew up with a lot of wrong ideas. [/QUOTE] Thanks for sharing that. My mother was a non-racist, “deal-with-people-as-individuals” person. I miss her a lot. She died in December 2000. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/118 "2007-09-28T21:21:52Z")
[QUOTE=gytalf2000] Thanks for sharing that. My mother was a non-racist, “deal-with-people-as-individuals” person. I miss her a lot. She died in December 2000. [/QUOTE] I see upthread that you say you’ve listened to some people about assumptions based on your limited experiences. You’d also being doing your mother _a great honor_ to incorporate her example. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/119 "2007-09-28T21:34:32Z")
\ **gytalf2000** , would you figure out how to use a quote tag, you fucking retard? Christ, I’ve now fixed [del]_five_[/del] _six_ posts of yours with fucked-up quotes just in this thread. How do you manage to fuck up the quote tags [del]five[/del] six times? Here’s a hint: when you hit the quote button, don’t delete the tags. It’s really not hard. \ ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559/120 "2007-09-28T21:44:54Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] \ **gytalf2000** , would you figure out how to use a quote tag, you fucking retard? Christ, I’ve now fixed [del]_five_[/del] _six_ posts of yours with fucked-up quotes just in this thread. How do you manage to fuck up the quote tags [del]five[/del] six times? Here’s a hint: when you hit the quote button, don’t delete the tags. It’s really not hard. \ [/QUOTE] He had a bad experience with quote tags once in college. Cut him some slack. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-triumph-in-race-relations/420559.md?page=7)