# Another way to tell if your coworkers don't like you: They leave you dead at your desk for four days **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 29, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441 "2024-08-29T22:04:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/1 "2024-08-29T22:04:19Z")
[This will be an awkward funeral…if there is one.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-probe-death-wells-fargo-employee-found-dead-cubicle-4-days-l-rcna168756) I have nightmares about this happening to me. Sad, sad end. However, there was a smell that was just shrugged off as bad plumbing? No maintenance people? No one checking the wastebaskets? No security walk throughs? Dang, this gives new meaning to the words: toxic work environment. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/2 "2024-08-29T23:05:17Z")
So much for all the communal benefits of getting everyone back to the office. Although I guess the list never mentions, “your body will be discovered sooner if you die during work hours.” > **[Council Post: 18 Overlooked Benefits Of Returning To The Office For Work](https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbeshumanresourcescouncil/2023/12/26/18-overlooked-benefits-of-returning-to-the-office-for-work/)** > > In-person collaboration offers a multi-sensory, human experience that deepens employees’ connection to and perception of your employer brand. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/3 "2024-08-30T02:18:51Z")
How the _hell_ did security miss this for four days?? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/4 "2024-08-30T02:20:06Z")
It was Wells Fargo. Read into that whatever you want. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/5 "2024-08-30T02:22:33Z")
“Police said the preliminary investigation showed no obvious signs of foul play.” While there was plenty of foul, there was no sign anybody played with the body. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/6 "2024-08-30T02:26:43Z")
It would be kind of cool to get paid for a position you don’t have to actually work in. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/7 "2024-08-30T02:28:33Z")
Was there a penalty for early withdrawal? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/8 "2024-08-30T02:36:06Z")
Is that a necrophilia joke? ---
**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/9 "2024-08-30T02:41:18Z")
I just saw this story not too long ago. Wtf? How does something like that even happen? ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/10 "2024-08-30T02:42:29Z")
I have never had business dealings with Wells Fargo but I’ve heard a lot of bad stuff about how they handle clients. And I have been getting a lot of spam calls from India(presumed by the accents) claiming to be from Wells Fargo. I HATE spam calls and even replying profanely(very) doesn’t stop them. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/11 "2024-08-30T02:51:46Z")
> [@Patx2](#): > > I just saw this story not too long ago. Wtf? How does something like that even happen? From the article: > she sat in an underpopulated area of the building. Maybe she valued quiet so she could work, maybe it was just chance. I’d like to take her supervisor/manager out for drinks and get the real dope. Anyway, if she died late Friday afternoon and spent all weekend there alone and was then discovered on Monday, that doesn’t seem that surprising. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > How the _hell_ did security miss this for four days?? Is checking to make sure everyone has left work a standard security practice? Is taking a walk-through at least once a day on the weekends a standard security practice? Well, they will be now. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/12 "2024-08-30T02:54:57Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > [@Czarcasm](#): > > > > How the _hell_ did security miss this for four days?? > > Is checking to make sure everyone has left work a standard security practice? Is taking a walk-through at least once a day on the weekends a standard security practice? Well, they will be now. Not always. But usually the cleaning people come around at some point to empty the garbage cans. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/13 "2024-08-30T03:04:12Z")
4 days sounds bad, but she was there Friday. For all we know, she could have said, “Have a great weekend, I’m staying late to catch up on some stuff.” to everyone Friday afternoon as they all left, and then they found her Monday morning. Maybe her office door was closed. I wouldn’t expect security to enter a closed office, even if it wasn’t locked. There’s no reason to go in someone’s office. I don’t think janitors would be coming through emptying trash or whatever on a weekend–not at a place with bankers hours. The whole story doesn’t seem too wild. She was found the very next work day. No different than passing away Tuesday, and being found dead Wednesday morning. ETA: Oh, it was a cubicle. So, not an office. Still, the cubicle could have been inside the larger office. When I did building security decades ago, I never entered any of the office suites which were each filled with both cubicles and private offices. I stayed in the hallways, lobbies and exterior grounds. I’d check to see that doors were locked, but that’s about it. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/14 "2024-08-30T03:04:59Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Anyway, if she died late Friday afternoon and spent all weekend there alone and was then discovered on Monday, that doesn’t seem that surprising. Fair. I was envisioning dying mid-day Tuesday and having no one notice until maintenance came to clean the area Friday night, > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > It would be kind of cool to get paid for a position you don’t have to actually work in. Yeah, I worked from home towards the end. And many of my projects had longish time frames. But I had meetings, people sent me emails and expected replies, people messaged me with quick questions. If I wanted to run an errand during the work day that would take more than an hour or so (allowed, so long as you made up the time) I “made a meeting” with myself so no one tried to contact me, because otherwise, I’d likely have been missed. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/15 "2024-08-30T03:06:28Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Not always. But usually the cleaning people come around at some point to empty the garbage cans. Over the weekend at a building where people don’t normally work weekends? At my office, the cleaners come through in the morning on workdays. No weekends. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/16 "2024-08-30T03:07:36Z")
> [@Bear\_Nenno](#): > > Maybe her office door was closed. Article says cubicle. Must not be “open plan” but the old fashioned kind of cubicles with 6 ft walls. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/17 "2024-08-30T03:10:44Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Anyway, if she died late Friday afternoon and spent all weekend there alone and was then discovered on Monday, that doesn’t seem that surprising. The article said she was discovered on August 20 - that was a Tuesday. And she was pronounced dead at 4:55 p.m., which suggests she wasn’t found until late Tuesday afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/18 "2024-08-30T03:11:15Z")
> [@Bear\_Nenno](#): > > > [@msmith537](#): > > > > Not always. But usually the cleaning people come around at some point to empty the garbage cans. > > Over the weekend at a building where people don’t normally work weekends? At my office, the cleaners come through in the morning on workdays. No weekends. At my office, the cleaners came outside of business hours. And some areas weren’t cleaned every day. The communal trash was emptied several times a day, because some idiot thought it would be good for engagement to take away the trash cans by the desks, and put a few trash cans in the hallways. And those weren’t nearly large enough to handle the trash. Sometimes right after lunch the area was pretty disgusting. But hey, employees got to stand there and look at each other while trying to play jenga with their dirty food containers. Or… actually, I don’t recall every seeing anyone else at the trash can, despite it taking some time to play jenga. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/19 "2024-08-30T03:11:41Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I was envisioning dying mid-day Tuesday and having no one notice until maintenance came to clean the area Friday night, I think the author or editor of the article did that intentionally. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441/20 "2024-08-30T03:12:12Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > > Anyway, if she died late Friday afternoon and spent all weekend there alone and was then discovered on Monday, that doesn’t seem that surprising. > > The article said she was discovered on August 20 - that was a Tuesday. And she was pronounced dead at 4:55 p.m., which suggests she wasn’t found until late Tuesday afternoon. And they noticed a smell before they found her, which is pretty creepy. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-way-to-tell-if-your-coworkers-dont-like-you-they-leave-you-dead-at-your-desk-for-four-days/1006441.md?page=2)