# Another Wisconsin Recall Pit: Check out what FoxNation is trying to pin on the Democrats. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193 "2012-06-05T20:17:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/21 "2012-06-05T22:39:29Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > In the other Pit thread, you post, with credulous approval, this story: > > Why is that the Truth, and the story in this thread “What a load?” Has there been any confirmation of this? > [@](#): > > Tom Barrett’s Wisconsin campaign is sounding the alarm, with finance director Mary Urbina-McCarthy warning supporters in an email Monday night of a mysterious round of phone calls to suppress voting: > > **snip** > > “If you signed the recall petition, your job is done and you don’t need to vote on Tuesday.” I haven’t seen any. It’s totally possible that a Walker robo call said something like, “Even if you signed the recall petition, you don’t have to vote for Barrett”. Sometimes people, especially excited people, don’t totally comprehend a message received. My daughter is working on the polls on the Northeast side of Madison today. Her grandfather did the same throughout the 50’s and 60’s. Kind of neat. She started at 6, but hasn’t called with a report, so maybe she volunteered to stay later. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/22 "2012-06-05T23:10:25Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Daily Kos reports that voter turnout in Madison may reach 119%! > > [Madison voter turnout reaching crazy heights](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/05/1097610/-Madison-voter-turnout-reaching-crazy-heights?detail=hide) > > Win, lose or draw, this is fucking great! The Apathy Party loses, America wins! How is knowing and intentional subversion of the state election process a good thing? Yes, I get it, I want that asshole of a governor gone as much as you do, but the ends don’t justify the means. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/23 "2012-06-05T23:14:15Z")
Wouldn’t that 119% mean that, if there are 10,000 known registered voters in a district, they expect 11,900? Given same-day registration, that’s not necessarily fraud, if for example there are 15,000 people of voting age in the district. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/24 "2012-06-05T23:24:29Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Wouldn’t that 119% mean that, if there are 10,000 known registered voters in a district, they expect 11,900? Given same-day registration, that’s not necessarily fraud, if for example there are 15,000 people of voting age in the district. Hmm, good point. I didn’t quite think that through enough. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Amasia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Amasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amasia)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/25 "2012-06-05T23:41:18Z")
I know this is the pit, but just to clarify: you can no longer vouch for someone on election day in Wisconsin and photo ID is not required to register to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/26 "2012-06-06T00:08:34Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Hmm, good point. I didn’t quite think that through enough. 🙂 They just clarified that on the news too - same day registration means the potential for greater-than-100% voter turnout. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/27 "2012-06-06T00:28:45Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Why is that (story recounted in Msg#2) the Truth, and the story in this thread (story recounted in Msg#1) “What a load?” For starters, the story in Msg#1 requires us to believe that the caller was on a crowded bus, whispering into his cell phone fearing for his life if other people on the bus heard him, and yet was clearly understood under those conditions by the person on the other end of the call (while going undetected by the person next to him on the bus). I don’t see the need to probe beyond that, any more than I see the need to probe beyond the fact that moon-hoax theorists require us to believe that the Soviets somehow didn’t detect and reveal the scam. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/28 "2012-06-06T00:47:03Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > **Bricker** , > You can’t see how ridiculous this story is? The man slips on the bus, even though he fears for his life and then, still fearing for his life, he carries on a phone conversation about it. The buses are, according to him, packed full, and yet he can talk loud enough to be heard over a cellphone without fearing that the murderous mob he’s sitting elbow to elbow with will hear him. > > He risks his life to call a radio station from the bus when, instead, he could have refrained from jumping on the bus, left the immediate vicinity, then called authorities with the license number. > > Does any of this truly make any sense to you? > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > For starters, the story in Msg#1 requires us to believe that the caller was on a crowded bus, whispering into his cell phone fearing for his life if other people on the bus heard him, and yet was clearly understood under those conditions by the person on the other end of the call (while going undetected by the person next to him on the bus). I don’t see the need to probe beyond that, any more than I see the need to probe beyond the fact that moon-hoax theorists require us to believe that the Soviets somehow didn’t detect and reveal the scam. Greyhound buses have bathrooms, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/29 "2012-06-06T01:01:59Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Greyhound buses have bathrooms, you know. Spend a lot of time in Greyhound bathooms, Rover? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/30 "2012-06-06T01:20:10Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Spend a lot of time in Greyhound bathooms, Rover? Hey, I can’t help it, your mom’s a kinky bitch. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/31 "2012-06-06T01:21:10Z")
Regardless, it’s still a ridiculous story. Why would he get on the bus rather than contacting authorities? So he can vote for Walker? Reporting, and thereby stopping, these busloads of illegal voters would help his cause a lot more than his single (illegal) vote would. Think about it. Why is he calling the station? To report the buses so that they’re stopped? That would mean that he would be arrested along with everyone else. Hell, he more or less admitted that he doesn’t want to stop the buses when he said that he’s planning to vote for Walker. So if he’s not trying to stop the buses, why not? He’s going to allow 100s of illegal votes for Barrett just so that he can get in his 1 Walker vote? What sense does that make? And how exactly is he planning to vote for Walker? If we assume the story is true, then the other people on the bus must have whatever ID (presumably forged) they need to register at the polls (which is allowed in Wisconsin). So this stealth rider, who just “jumped on the bus” carries around fake Wisconsin ID or utility bills or whatever just in case he finds himself in a situation where they would be useful? This story reeks of being propaganda. It just makes no sense as a real story. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/32 "2012-06-06T01:23:49Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Hey, I can’t help it, your mom’s a kinky bitch. By the way, she wants me to see if you have the money for that last session. I know that money is tight in the snowmobile business right now, but at this point you’re abusing her charity. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/33 "2012-06-06T01:55:16Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I know that money is tight in the snowmobile business right now, but at this point you’re abusing her charity. Snowmobiles? I had him pegged for a fireworks stand on the county line. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/34 "2012-06-06T01:58:34Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Snowmobiles? I had him pegged for a fireworks stand on the county line. He’s moving up in the world. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/35 "2012-06-06T02:22:05Z")
It’s ATV’s actually. Although I think he might move into snowmobiles for the winter months, just to keep a steady paycheck. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/36 "2012-06-06T02:33:50Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I had him pegged You wish. I’m not into that, bro (NTTAWWT). ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/37 "2012-06-06T02:37:34Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > You wish. I’m not into that, bro (NTTAWWT). That’s not what it said on the airport bathroom wall… ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/38 "2012-06-06T02:48:27Z")
So anyway, Walker won. Please PM me for the address to which you may send your sweet, sweet bitch tears. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/39 "2012-06-06T02:54:38Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > So anyway, Walker won. > > Please PM me for the address to which you may send your sweet, sweet bitch tears. You mean it has changed from the glory hole at Blow Buddies Tearoom and Bathhouse? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193/40 "2012-06-06T02:57:04Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > You mean it has changed from the glory hole at Blow Buddies Tearoom and Bathhouse? Why do you consider it an insult to insinuate that someone is a homosexual? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-wisconsin-recall-pit-check-out-what-foxnation-is-trying-to-pin-on-the-democrats/624193.md?page=3)