# Another Worthless Celebrity Anti-Vaxer

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734 "2014-03-14T23:57:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/201 "2014-03-29T11:28:34Z")

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I think Jackmanii has it right. akrako was here to preach, not to learn. I’m perfectly happy to spend all day explaining to someone who is genuinely curious and who wants to know more. Someone who is here just to preach known nonsense deserves nothing more than to be shut down as soon as possible.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/202 "2014-03-29T21:36:46Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> And I’m okay that you’re okay. :)\<snip\>

Okay. 🙂

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/203 "2014-03-30T17:53:13Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Come to think of it – **has** autism ever been observed in a nonhuman species?

This zoologist believes that non-human primates often exhibit various autistic behaviors, the main one being an aversion to eye contact.

> **[Songs of the Gorilla Nation: My Journey Through Autism: Prince-Hughes Ph.D.,...](https://www.amazon.com/Songs-Gorilla-Nation-Journey-Through/dp/1400082153)**
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> Buy Songs of the Gorilla Nation: My Journey Through Autism on Amazon.com ✓ FREE SHIPPING on qualified orders

This book is also recommended reading for people who are dealing with someone on the autism spectrum who is also GLBT.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/204 "2014-04-02T02:25:33Z")

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Is this a new thing here? [“Vaccine truthers’ scary new craze: Exemptions from public school immunizations”](http://www.salon.com/2014/04/01/vaccine_truthers_scary_new_craze_exemptions_from_public_school_immunizations/)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/205 "2014-04-02T02:26:49Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> This zoologist believes that non-human primates often exhibit various autistic behaviors, the main one being an aversion to eye contact.
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> [Songs of the Gorilla Nation: My Journey Through Autism: Prince-Hughes Ph.D., Dawn: 9781400082155: Amazon.com: Books](http://www.amazon.com/Songs-Gorilla-Nation-Journey-Through/dp/1400082153/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1396201893&sr=1-1&keywords=songs+of+the+gorilla+nation)
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> This book is also recommended reading for people who are dealing with someone on the autism spectrum who is also GLBT.

Won’t someone please think of the poor autistic gay gorillas?! ☹

Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2014, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/206 "2014-04-02T02:29:13Z")

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Seriously, though, the notion of an autistic – I mean a full-on Rain Man autistic – having a sexual orientation of any kind is rather surprising (not impossible, but surprising). But no doubt that is not true of the whole autistic-disorder spectrum.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/207 "2014-04-14T22:06:24Z")

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[Jenny McCarthy is trying to back-peddle on her anti-vaccination stance](http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/26784527-452/jenny-mccarthy-the-gray-area-on-vaccines.html#.U0xaWld7TIU)

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/208 "2014-04-14T22:23:18Z")

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Jesus christ, what a moron.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/209 "2014-04-14T22:27:46Z")

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[Time called her on it, though](http://time.com/60416/jenny-mccarthy-anti-vaccine-whitewash/). So that’s nice.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/210 "2014-04-14T22:36:12Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Seriously, though, the notion of an autistic – I mean a full-on Rain Man autistic – having a sexual orientation of any kind is rather surprising (not impossible, but surprising). But no doubt that is not true of the whole autistic-disorder spectrum.

Even people with severe or profound mental retardation express sexual desires.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/211 "2014-04-15T00:00:05Z")

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I’m glad to see that Jenny’s back-pedalling isn’t going unchallenged. You can’t just spew all kinds of dangerous, ill-informed shit without people remembering these days.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/212 "2014-04-15T00:15:01Z")

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And I turn on the local news, and the first story is kids being kept home from high schools here because of two cases of measles turning up. I believe how it goes is if you don’t have proof of vaccination, you get to stay home for now.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/213 "2014-04-15T01:46:05Z")

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Hopefully this is because she is starting to feel the heat from all the breakouts that have happened. Now she’s going to try and rewrite her personal history. Yah, don’t think so.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/214 "2014-04-15T01:49:50Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Even people with severe or profound mental retardation express sexual desires.

But full-on autistics appear to express no desires of any kind that involve other people.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2014, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/215 "2014-04-17T12:27:24Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/216 "2014-04-17T20:05:46Z")

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Add [Alicia Silverstone](http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/alicia-silverstones-son-drop-medicine/story?id=23351102) to the stupid celebrity anti-vax brigade.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/217 "2014-04-18T02:23:24Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> Add [Alicia Silverstone](http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/alicia-silverstones-son-drop-medicine/story?id=23351102) to the stupid celebrity anti-vax brigade.

She’s not too big a surprise - I recall something about her feeding her baby in a weird way (like a baby bird) and she’s also a vegan. Still, every celebrity who joins the Dark Side is a bad thing.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/218 "2014-04-18T02:54:29Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I think it’s because it’s being properly identified and diagnosed. Some people also attribute it to video and computer dating, which has enabled people on the high-functioning end of the spectrum who otherwise might not have been able to find partners to do so.

I would not be surprised if someone finds a link between autism and premature birth. More premature babies than ever are being saved. It’s caused a rise in cerebral palsy. I can’t help wondering if it will be linked to other disabilities as well.

Personally, I think redefinition and a rise in detection rates, as well as the loss of stigma once the “refrigerator mother” theory breathed its last, are the main reasons.

> [@Mr.Duality](#):
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> It’s an increase in _diagnosis of autism_, not autism itself.

Exactly.

> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> She’s not too big a surprise - I recall something about her feeding her baby in a weird way (like a baby bird) and she’s also a vegan. Still, every celebrity who joins the Dark Side is a bad thing.

Vegan /= woo. We’re vegetarians, and we know lots of vegans and vegetarians who have fully vaccinated children.

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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/219 "2014-04-18T03:59:48Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> “Google degree”? Is that like, one step lower on the higher education rung than a degree from the University Of Phoenix?

Sadly, I received my degree from the same U as Jenny McCrapthy. I now see that I was swindled.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/220 "2014-04-18T12:53:18Z")

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This weeks[Zero Punctuation](http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/9014-inFAMOUS-Second-Son-Bad-Son-Good-Son) review of the video game Infamous: Second Son includes the line:

“More particle effects than there are smallpox blisters on the child of an anti-vaccination campaigner”

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