# Another Worthless Celebrity Anti-Vaxer **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734 "2014-03-14T23:57:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/41 "2014-03-16T14:55:47Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [Two of the measles cases in NYC were transmitted in a doctor’s office, apparently.](http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?id=9462035) > > I know it’s a bit of a hijack, but this certainly sucks. Oh the fucking comments over there! Such ignorance. One moron is pretending that vaccinating for measles and not vaccinating for measles bring the same results. She’s also implying that the MMR vaccine wears off. Idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/42 "2014-03-16T16:10:31Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Thanks for that! The best part is someone mentioned this nifty meter I’d never heard of until now: [Anti-Vaccine Body Count](http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/). I hate that that site changed its name from The Jenny McCarthy Body Count, because that summed it up for me. 1336 dead kids at her feet\* as of February 2014. And somehow ABC sees fit to give that baby-killer a voice in a daily public forum. :mad: > [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Because I will never argue one side without knowing the other point of view, I read McCarthy’s book. She claims to have a “google degree in anti-vaccinations.” So every anti-vax website is a correct source of information? Well, that’s pretty much all you need to know. > [@Acsenray](#): > > Oh, so Andros is a childhood friend of Obama? He might be; we don’t know. \*She doesn’t take all the blame, of course, but she does get a large chunk of it. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/43 "2014-03-16T16:14:30Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > He might be; we don’t know. If he is, it’s jerkish of him to drop nicknames. If he isn’t, then it’s either disparaging or precious and twee. I don’t use the nickname “Dubya” very often, but when I do, I am aware that I mean something by it, and not something nice. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/44 "2014-03-16T16:39:12Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [Two of the measles cases in NYC were transmitted in a doctor’s office, apparently.](http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?id=9462035) Do tell. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/45 "2014-03-16T17:11:24Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Do tell. 🆒 I thought of you when I posted that. But to fair, we don’t know if anti-vaxers were the source of the infection. It could be that children who hadn’t been vaccinated _yet_ were the source. It’s my understanding that even kids who have been vaccinate can spread the disease. So don’t be quick with your conclusions, you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/46 "2014-03-16T18:37:01Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’ve no love whatsoever for the antivaxer crowd, but that potshot at UP isn’t accurate. It is an accredited university and their degree is not worthless. Oh I know. I just used it as a jest because I see their ads on TV all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/47 "2014-03-16T22:22:31Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > “Google degree”? Is that like, one step lower on the higher education rung than a degree from the University Of Phoenix? Yet still above Evergreen State College ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/48 "2014-03-16T23:53:39Z")
My son was exposed to the NYC measles. He had been at his dad’s house, and a friend of his stepmom came by, not knowing that he was about to come down with it. And he had been vaccinated. The guy who got measles, I mean. I guess he was one of the unlucky few that got it anyway. Naturally everybody in the house had been vaccinated, and nobody else came down with it. This is especially fortunate for stepmom, because she’s 7 months pregnant. And oh yeah…she’s a lactation consultant, which means she sticks her fingers in newborn babies’ mouths all day long. Luckily the timing worked out that she hadn’t been to work between the time she was exposed and the time she found out she was exposed, so no babies got it. She did have to take a week off work just in case, though. The thought of the newborns being exposed to measles like that…there are no words. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/49 "2014-03-16T23:58:09Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > If he is, it’s jerkish of him to drop nicknames. If he isn’t, then it’s either disparaging or precious and twee. I don’t use the nickname “Dubya” very often, but when I do, I am aware that I mean something by it, and not something nice. Your opinion is duly noted, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/50 "2014-03-17T00:03:56Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > If he is, it’s jerkish of him to drop nicknames. If he isn’t, then it’s either disparaging or precious and twee. I don’t use the nickname “Dubya” very often, but when I do, I am aware that I mean something by it, and not something nice. Oddly enough, I don’t really recall Bush using that nickname for himself. Guess your opinion has as much–or as little–value as anyone else’s opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/51 "2014-03-17T00:56:41Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > I thought of you when I posted that. But to fair, we don’t know if anti-vaxers were the source of the infection. It could be that children who hadn’t been vaccinated _yet_ were the source. True, I haven’t seen an update on the vaccination status of the index case, how that individual was exposed in the first place and what the vaccination status was for those who caught measles as a result of visiting a doctor’s office. Interesting though in light of the claim made in another recent Pit thread that vaccine-preventable disease transmission via a doctor’s office is an incredibly rare event (thus MDs supposedly don’t have to worry about their practice encompassing non-vaccinated kids). That may now have to be revised to “like, really really uncommon”. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/52 "2014-03-17T01:05:14Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Oddly enough, I don’t really recall Bush using that nickname for himself. My understanding is that it’s pretty much how he was known by his family most of his life. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/53 "2014-03-17T01:43:43Z")
I’m currently being called a whore on her Facebook page. I’m proud I’ve managed not to call every last anti-vax nut a germ spreading, measles loving, willfully ignorant, painfully dumb, Darwin award nominee in the making. Ugh. Seriously. They’re praising Mercola, he of the multi-million dollar house and enough money to donate a cool million to the anti-vax NVIC while whining about a twenty-three cent measles shot and thirteen cent polio shot. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/54 "2014-03-17T02:18:49Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > I’m currently being called a whore on her Facebook page. I’m proud I’ve managed not to call every last anti-vax nut a germ spreading, measles loving, willfully ignorant, painfully dumb, Darwin award nominee in the making. \ Give us the link so we can do it? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/55 "2014-03-17T02:47:48Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Give us the link so we can do it? 😃 Aw what the hell. [https://www.facebook.com/KristinCavallari/posts/475541239212681?comment\_id=2286650&offset=0&total\_comments=89¬if\_t=feed\_comment](https://www.facebook.com/KristinCavallari/posts/475541239212681?comment_id=2286650&offset=0&total_comments=89¬if_t=feed_comment) > [@](#): > > The latest stupid comment: > > Hey your “Anti Vax Wall Of Shame” page is calling you home! “Keep it classy”, you should read the hatred and bullying on that page and Stacy is one of the worse! Yep Pharma shills are swarming! Lol…sucks that so many are seeking the truth about vaccines and their harm! You and Ali hag authors or that silly book with credits of the likes of Paul Proffit. Yep the shills are shilling in full force! It must suck to have to fight so hard to keep the dam of information of vaccine harm from the awaking people! > > 1 min · Like Screw those morons. Five cents of brains between them. Paranoid, backwards, deeply stupid fuckheads every last one. If you can’t figure out that it’s better to avoid measles then get it, you need to find another planet. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/56 "2014-03-17T03:11:04Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > If he is, it’s jerkish of him to drop nicknames. If he isn’t, then it’s either disparaging or precious and twee. I don’t use the nickname “Dubya” very often, but when I do, I am aware that I mean something by it, and not something nice. Why don’t you take a chill tablet and apologize for making assumptions? ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/57 "2014-03-17T03:41:45Z")
Is it really, really mean of me to kind of, sort of hope this loon’s kid ends up with autism spectrum disorder, despite never being vaccinated? No, I don’t really wish that on any kid or any parent, but it would be poetic justice, or irony, or something. Just my bitchy opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/58 "2014-03-17T04:04:53Z")
I wish that the consequences for these parents making bad, dangerous decisions were visited upon them, not upon their kids and other people’s kids. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/59 "2014-03-17T04:14:41Z")
Hey, how do we know that the _anti-vaccination_ crusaders aren’t the drug company shills?! After all, everyone knows that treatments are more profitable than cures! How do we know they aren’t trying to get lots of kids sick with easily preventable diseases, knowing that desperate parents will pay anything to make those kids better, thus raking in the profits for drugs that wouldn’t have been necessary if not for a much cheaper and less profitable single vaccination?! ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734/60 "2014-03-17T06:23:49Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Hey, how do we know that the _anti-vaccination_ crusaders aren’t the drug company shills?! After all, everyone knows that treatments are more profitable than cures! How do we know they aren’t trying to get lots of kids sick with easily preventable diseases, knowing that desperate parents will pay anything to make those kids better, thus raking in the profits for drugs that wouldn’t have been necessary if not for a much cheaper and less profitable single vaccination?! I’ve also seen it argued that BigPharma sells vaccines cheap so they can clean up on the treatment drugs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-worthless-celebrity-anti-vaxer/683734.md?page=4)