# Answer for different and unique human characteristics?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 27, 2003, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966 "2003-02-27T20:14:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/21 "2003-02-28T00:18:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DanielWithrow \*  
> \*\*There’s a scientific position that requires no faith at all; I’m not sure if there’s a similar religious position.
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> The scientific position which doesn’t require faith states that:
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> I don’t know what you mean by saying that the spiritual answer is as “sound” as the scientific answer: they’re apples and oranges. Certainly, the theory of natural selection is a sound scientific theory, whereas creationism is an unsound scientific theory; conversely, creationism is a sound creationist idea, whereas natural selection is an unsound creationist idea.
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> As for your attempt to show that evolution requires faith – I don’t understand what you’re getting at here. Do you really believe that science has no falsifiable theories on why monkeys don’t build skyscrapers? Have you never read anything about linguistics, about tool use amongst primates, about paleontology, about comparative neurobiology? There’s a plethora of data in this field, and while I don’t know that anyone has studied this specific question (similarly, nobody has studied the question of why capybaras don’t write sitcoms), that doesn’t mean that there’s not enough data to provide a strong hypothesis.
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> Daniel \*\*

I think what is meant that since no one observed any of the evolution theory actually take place, science must take the theory on faith. Which is true. Evolution is theory, if you believe it, you do so on faith, not actual experience. A great deal of science is that way. There is as much faith in science as religion.

As for the spiritual side. Near death experiencers do not need faith to believe in spiritual events. They have actually experienced them, so they know they are real. Now scientists may say they didn’t because of blah, and blah, but the fact is, scientists don’t have a clue what they experienced.

Love  
Leroy

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/22 "2003-02-28T00:18:35Z")

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Shortcomings of science doesn’t = credit for the Bible any more than it translates into credit for norse mythology, Buddhist cosmology or Lakota legends. All answer questions that science doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/23 "2003-02-28T00:21:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SimonX \*  
> \*\*I was looking fo a cite on humasn 1,000,000 unique characteristics. Culture isn’t one of them. \*\*

Of course culture is one of them. Why wouldn’t it be?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/24 "2003-02-28T00:22:33Z")

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**Fuel:** \*When I observe a bird, I see that it has one unique characteristic that stands out, wings. I maybe can figure out one or two more unique things about them such as how they all fly off a telephone wire in perfect harmony without any observable “signal”. These are unique, but that’s about it i’m afraid, two things.

Now think of a bird observing us driving around in cars, playing tennis, sculpting, weightlifting, getting haircuts, ect. Come on buddy, this is not even comparable from an observation standpoint.\*

All this demonstrates is that, as **DF** noted, you don’t pay much attention to birds. Furthermore, you see things from a human point of view instead of a bird’s point of view, so naturally you are going to perceive the human activities as being much more varied and meaningful.

From a bird’s point of view, all its different ways of grooming, nest-building, food hunting, predator evasion, flock communication, and everything else it does would be the distinct and meaningful activities. From a bird’s point of view, human activity is much more primitive and uninteresting than bird activity: humans don’t do anything except move around some and manipulate objects, mostly in repetitive and meaningless ways.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/25 "2003-02-28T00:32:06Z")

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**lekatt:** _There is as much faith in science as religion._

I think you misunderstand what “theory” means in science. “Theory” just means “this is the best and most consistent material rational explanation we have at present for this particular phenomenon, but we may have to change or abandon it in the future if new evidence indicates that it’s wrong.”

This is very different in many ways from faith in religious dogma. Religious faith means “This is true because divine authority has revealed it as true, and since divine authority is infallible, there is no way this could ever **not** be true.”

Those are quite different perspectives, and have quite different epistemological consequences for their adherents. The differences can’t be glossed over by sloppy use of words like “faith”.

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**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/26 "2003-02-28T00:40:44Z")

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Bah the OP is a gross misunderstanding of evolution. Evolution is not directed, we are in no way evolutionarily superior than any other creature on this planet. We happen to be quite a successful animal, in our ability to populate different niches. But the cockroach does as well, as does the rat.

We have one defining feature – language. Nobody can give the exact conditions which led to the evolution of language, just like nobody can give the exact conditions leading to the cockroach being able to run 40 kmh or a peacock’s tail.

The one thing that sets us apart from our nearest primate cousins is language, which reinforces the social structure already present in our primate cousins. IMHO it serves as a great accelerator of social and industrial refinement. For instance tool building. Chimps can use tools, so we are not unique in tool using. But let’s say one chimp could tell the other chimp a better way to break a branch for fishing out insects from a tree trunk. And then the second chimp improved the first chimp’s method and told a third chimp, who improved it further. By the time you get to the trillionth chimp, you have a laser guided reciprocating saw. Language is the great unifier of our brain as well, as is probably behind self-identity and the concept of self. With this extends diversified social structures.

And thus follows haircuts and skyscrapers.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/27 "2003-02-28T00:42:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lekatt \*  
> \*\*  
> I think what is meant that since no one observed any of the evolution theory actually take place, science must take the theory on faith. Which is true.  
> \*\*

No one has actually observed a magnetic field or gravity either. But given the effects that are observable, it can be demonstrated what are the best ways to conceive of these things in order to make accurate prediction about the behavior of objects in the world. Remeber that gravity is [“just a theory” too](http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/General_relativity.html).

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> \*Originally posted by lekatt \*  
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> A great deal of science is that way. There is as much faith in science as religion.  
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No it isn’t and no there is not.  
I’ve worked at a scientific peer review journal of international renown, The Auk. There is actually quite a bit of questioning and doubting going on. The competition is very fierce because the stakes are so low. If a scientist can poke holes in another’s methods, test or conclusions, he will. A scientist is rewarded for doubting and being able to poke holes in another scientist’s work. That’s part of their job. When somone’s work is found to be incomplete or poorly studied or have incorrect conclusions it is returned for revision and ammendment. **It is changed until it is in accord with observable facts.** I’ve not heard of the Bible having to go through such a process.

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> \*Originally posted by lekatt \*  
> \*\*  
> As for the spiritual side. Near death experiencers do not need faith to believe in spiritual events. They have actually experienced them, so they know they are real.  
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Delusional schizophrenics and drug-addled crankcases do not need faith to believe in various events. They have actually experienced them, so they know they are real.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/28 "2003-02-28T00:44:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lekatt \*  
> \*\*  
> Of course culture is one of them. Why wouldn’t it be? \*\*

Because to be unique means that other species don’t have cultures.  
Other species have cultures.  
Therefore culture is not unique.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/29 "2003-02-28T00:53:09Z")

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**lekatt:** _…since no one observed any of the evolution theory actually take place…_

Not true, actually: science **does** observe evolution take place all the time. Scientists have experimented with isolated populations of certain species and have seen them evolve into organisms different enough to be considered distinct species. Heck, medical researchers develop flu vaccines based on their knowledge of evolution in flu viruses.

No, nobody alive today has seen the biological evolution of _Homo sapiens_ as a separate species, that’s true. Similarly, nobody alive today has seen any of the stone pillars of Stonehenge fall over.  
However, since we understand how the theory of gravity works, and since it is a very good theory that explains a lot of the facts we observe today, we accept— **not** as a dogma of faith, but as an extension of our basic scientific model which so far is consistent and successful—that the fall of Stonehenge pillars in the past obeyed the laws of gravity.

Likewise, we accept, as an extension of our successful model of biological evolution, that human beings changed biologically in accordance with the laws of natural selection. In both cases, if we find new evidence to the contrary, we’ll change our theory. Extrapolating the behavior of successful theories from the present into the past isn’t the same thing as religious faith.

Scientists certainly do use some assumptions that can never be proved: that natural laws are consistent, that material phenomena can be accounted for by material explanations, and so forth. But you can’t argue from that that religious dogmas are just as “scientific” as scientific theories. Or that just because they both make some unprovable assumptions and make some claims about things that no living person has personally experienced, they are equally dependent on “faith”. Religious faith uses the concept of “belief” very, very differently from the way scientific theories use it.

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**Author:** ![Fuel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df705f/32.png) [@Fuel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuel)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/30 "2003-02-28T01:20:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SimonX \*
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> > Originally posted by Fuel
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> > And there is no way to disprove any theory. That’s what levels the playing field between science and spirituality.
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> Actually, there is a way to disprove a theory- you test it.  
> Spirituality is unfalsifiable. What test could there be for the existence of God? What outcome would yield a result that means there is no god?

So, anything that cannot be disproved is untrue? So, if I stole your car, but you couldn’t disprove my claim that i am innocent, then i didn’t do it? But i did it, i stole your car and now that you can’t disprove my claim, i am innocent to drive by your house everyday waving at you from your car. Makes no sense. I am not going to let unfalsifiablity keep me from finding the truth. Besides, evolution is unfalsifiable right now as well…there is no evidence _right_ now to disprove it either.

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> > Originally posted by Fuel
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> > If we found a tomb labeled “adam and wife eve”, that would be good proof for the Creation story
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> No, it wouldn’t. I’ve already seen one in Tenn.

yeah but have you seen one between the Tigris and Euphrates River and dated to be about 2000-5000 years old?

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> > Originally posted by Fuel
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> > and if we found 100 different fully preserved, full skeletons and brains of the different human variances, then that would be good proof for the scientific explanation.
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> No, it wouldn’t. the scientific explanation would have a whole bucket of worms to contend with as to how this improbable find could have come to be. I’d say this would be evidence of an attempt at fraud.

No, i meant finding 100 skeletons over the course of 10 years and in different places. Come one buddy, think for a change.

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> > Originally posted by Fuel
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> > I said i see evidence of non-physicality. It’s not a trick. It’s an observation that everyone is capable of making.
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> What is the evidence? How can I make the observation? Where do I look?

Look at every other mammals’ everyday activities and look our the average persons’ daily activities. Do you see the difference? Now, explain _how_ this difference occurred and then use sciences’ theories to infer possibly _why_ this happened. You can’t, so I take this as evidence, however small or insignificant, that there is a _possibly_ of something working behind the scenes. Then i look over and see the Bible. Then i go from there.

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> > Originally posted by Fuel
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> > We are different and our science cannot explain it. That’s evidence, however small or conclusive, that something else is going on which is not physical.
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> That’s a huge jump. Why does it follow that if science cannot explain something that the necessary conclusion is that it must be supernatural?  
> For time, lightning couldn’t be scientifically explained. Yet it doesn’t seem to follow that therefore until lightning was scientifically explainable that it was a supernatural phenomenon. Oh wait a minute, it was a supernatural phenomenon. I think that quite a few gods were given as the cause of it. I wonder which divine explanation was the right one?  
> Diamonds are different from granite, water is different from thermonuclear radiation, birds are different from fishes, etc…  
> What’s the big hoopty?  
> And further, other animals, besides human animals, do have cultures-  
> Culture, which can be defined as the presence of geographically distinct behavioral variants that are maintained and transmitted through social learning, was long considered to be a uniquely human trait.
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> > Originally posted by Fuel
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> > Why am I wrong?
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> Your conclusion is not inferrable from your premise.  
> premise: Humans are not other animals.  
> conclusion: God must have made it so.

Ok, after reading part of your post, i am realizing yo udidn’t see part of my recent post about how i am not trying to come to a conclusion here. I am trying to gain credit for creation by showing the shortcomings of modern science. I am not against science and i am not trying to battle with it’s relevancy… it has an abundance of evidence, but also an abundance of a lack of evidence. I am trying to use the lack of evidence as support for the other theories. That’s all.

[Fixed quote tags. – MEB]

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**Author:** ![FranticMad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c68b51/32.png) [@FranticMad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FranticMad)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/31 "2003-02-28T01:49:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fuel \*  
> \*\*I am not against science and i am not trying to battle with it’s relevancy… it has an abundance of evidence, but also an abundance of a lack of evidence. I am trying to use the lack of evidence as support for the other theories. That’s all. \*\*

And that’s a very scientific approach. Entertain other theories. But it seems that you entertain only one other theory. Aside from the Bible, what other theories are you trying to support?

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/32 "2003-02-28T01:53:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fuel \*  
> \*\*I am trying to gain credit for creation by showing the shortcomings of modern science. I am not against science and i am not trying to battle with it’s relevancy… it has an abundance of evidence, but also an abundance of a lack of evidence. I am trying to use the lack of evidence as support for the other theories. That’s all. \*\*

And you will fail utterly in your quest, I’m afraid. If it were proven conclusively that evolution is false, that lends no credence to _any_ other theory. All theories must stand, or fall, completely on their own. This is why creationism has gotten nowhere: it exists only as a counter to evolution. Its arguments consist solely of attempts at poking holes in another theory. It cannot offer any of its _own_ theories to act as an alternate explanation. It only offers a simple homily: God did it.

Lack of evidence does not prove anything. That we don’t now know something says nothing about whether that something _can_ be known.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/33 "2003-02-28T02:02:53Z")

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**Author:** ![Fuel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df705f/32.png) [@Fuel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuel)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/34 "2003-02-28T02:07:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FranticMad \*  
> \*\*And that’s a very scientific approach. Entertain other theories. But it seems that you entertain only one other theory. Aside from the Bible, what other theories are you trying to support? \*\*

I am trying to gain support for **any** other scientific theories and written works that earn logical respect and prove to be competent works. The Bible seems to be the one written work (to me) that begs the most attention because of it’s cohesiveness and and accuracy. This is just my somewhat biased and uneducated opinion though. There are a good deal of religious works out there like the Quaran (sp?) which offer an explanation as well.

IMO, everyone needs to have an opinion on the Bible. While a number of people write off the Bible as errant, there is still such a wealth of validity in this book that anyone trying to find the answer to the perceived differences between us and animals must at least consider this books’ explanation as a valid theory, especially in the wake of modern sciences’ shortcomings.

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**Author:** ![Fuel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df705f/32.png) [@Fuel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuel)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/35 "2003-02-28T02:14:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Darwin’s Finch \*  
> \*\*And you will fail utterly in your quest, I’m afraid. If it were proven conclusively that evolution is false, that lends no credence to _any_ other theory. All theories must stand, or fall, completely on their own. This is why creationism has gotten nowhere: it exists only as a counter to evolution. Its arguments consist solely of attempts at poking holes in another theory. It cannot offer any of its _own_ theories to act as an alternate explanation. It only offers a simple homily: God did it.
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> Lack of evidence does not prove anything. That we don’t now know something says nothing about whether that something _can_ be known. \*\*

1. The way humans are wired, this will indeed lend credence to this theory. You are right, logically it shouldn’t matter, but humans are so emotional when it comes to this point. That’s all i care is gained credibility with humans.

2. You are Soooooooooo wrong about Creationism existing to poke holes in another theory. Do you realize that Creationsm is older than evolution? It was around before evolution and evolution has sprouted up and tried to poke holes in Creationism. You got things a little “bass ackwards” there buddy.

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**Author:** ![Fuel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df705f/32.png) [@Fuel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuel)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/36 "2003-02-28T02:17:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Darwin’s Finch \*  
> \*\*As I said before, you are showing what we **do** with our inteligence, nothing more. Dolphins, chimps, birds and whatever else may simply **do** other things with theirs. That we can play chess implies nothing about our relative intelligence.
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> What’s different is that there are multiple lines of evidence which all point to evolution being true. There is but one, non-independently verified source for your “something different”.
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> What evidence do you have that it _couldn’t_? Just that it hasn’t been repeated? The civilization of ancient Egypt hasn’t been repeated either - doesn’t mean that other humans weren’t capable of performing similar, if not identical, feats.
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> \*\*
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> You haven’t observed many birds, have you? Did you know, for example, that many songbirds are capable of producing two notes _simultaneously_? Humans can’t do that - indeed, no other animal can. Just one of many uniquely avian traits.
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> I said nothing about partial skeletons. Our ability to communicate in the first place is an evolved trait. Other animals do this, so you can hardly find this surprising. A combination of factors allowed us to turn this “simple” communication into an ability to form abstract thought - something which we may or may not be unique in. Again, my point is that we know very little about how, or if, animals think. You claim that we are unique, but you have not demonstrated such. Because dolphins do not build skyscrapers does not mean they lack intelligence, nor does it mean they lack the capacity for individual thought. Our “uniqueness” may well be a consequence of our defining the rules.
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> We need do nothing of the sort. You have created a false dichotomy: if we can’t explain it using current knowledge, the Bible must be true by default. Whether evolution as we know it happens at all is completely independent of whether the Bible is a true record of God’s actions. \*\*

i said nothing about intelligence, i mentioned creativity and complexity.

Again, i am not claiming anything to be true or untrue. Please understand this, because this is the third time i have had to say this. I am trying to gain acceptability.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/37 "2003-02-28T03:13:32Z")

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> The way humans are wired, this will indeed lend credence to this theory. You are right, logically it shouldn’t matter, but humans are so emotional when it comes to this point. That’s all i care is gained credibility with humans.

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> Again, i am not claiming anything to be true or untrue. Please understand this, because this is the third time i have had to say this. I am trying to gain acceptability.

Oh well, if you’re not actually interested in the truth, why not just say “evolutionists” are all Nazis and Communists and child molesters?

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**Author:** ![FranticMad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c68b51/32.png) [@FranticMad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FranticMad)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/38 "2003-02-28T03:53:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fuel \*  
> \*\*I am trying to gain acceptability. \*\*

Maybe you just need a hug once in a while, and I’m not being sarcastic.

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**Author:** ![Fuel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df705f/32.png) [@Fuel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuel)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/39 "2003-02-28T04:04:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MEBuckner \*  
> \*\*Oh well, if you’re not actually interested in the truth, why not just say “evolutionists” are all Nazis and Communists and child molesters? \*\*

Since the truth cannot be found right now, I am trying to gain credence for Creation from humans who are on the scientific side for no logical reason. The truth cannot be found, but it can be stumbled upon. The truth can also be hidden behind something such as science. I am here to make things as clear as possible, nothing more.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-for-different-and-unique-human-characteristics/157966/40 "2003-02-28T04:07:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FranticMad \*  
> \*\*Maybe you just need a hug once in a while, and I’m not being sarcastic. \*\*

I’m not trying to gain acceptability personally, there, Chief. I’m trying to gain some acceptability for Creation and other explanations unrelated to science and evolution.

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