# Answer to Aspenglow

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [June 22, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210 "2024-06-22T19:15:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210/1 "2024-06-22T19:15:01Z")

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Since we’re not allowed to answer to moderation in the thread and you did ask, the point was that Kayaker was referring to a schoolyard “hand game” which a comment reminded him of, so I referred to [another schoolyard “hand game”](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-me-chinese-me-play-joke-saying/123855) that Kayaker’s comment reminded me of.

> [@This doesn't look like self defense to me](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-doesnt-look-like-self-defense-to-me/1003201/21):
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> Moderating: What is the point of this tasteless, racist “joke”? It adds nothing to the discussion and doesn’t appear to have any legitimate value for the discussion except to offend. Don’t do this again.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210/2 "2024-06-22T19:25:11Z")

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Thanks for the explanation.

Nobody got it. The reference is far too obscure and offensive. There were 3 flags thrown on that comment within seconds.

Things have changed a lot since that original thread was made in 2002. I’m going to join Colibri’s moderation from 2013 to say yours was an equally ridiculous reason to raise a now-22-year-old thread. And you should have known that.

PM kayaker next time if you must make sure he understands you got his reference.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210/3 "2024-06-22T19:26:55Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Things have changed a lot since that original thread was made in 2002.

And even in that thread from 22 years ago, it was called “Pretty goddamn racist”.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210/4 "2024-06-22T19:31:02Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Things have changed a lot since that original thread was made in 2002

I hadn’t actually seen that 2002 thread before I googled for an explaination and saw one that linked here. I knew it because that hand thing was all over my school in my childhood, at least as much as “this is the church, this is the steeple”.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210/5 "2024-06-22T19:32:56Z")

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I remember that part. But not the Chinese reference, which was the bit that is offensive.

And just so you know, one of the flags thrown was by another moderator.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210/6 "2024-06-22T21:59:18Z")

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I completely agree with the moderation as yet a third mod.

A post like that is not going to pass any more.

If anything, I might have gone straight to a warning so you got off easy.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210/7 "2024-06-22T22:30:49Z")

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I got it, but the fact that people said something racist decades ago is no excuse to keep saying racist things.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210/8 "2024-06-23T10:26:29Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I remember that part. But not the Chinese reference

Same here, for what it’s worth (nothing).

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210/9 "2024-06-23T19:10:36Z")

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I went and read the old thread discussing the grade school joke and suddenly remembered it. It _was_ something I’d heard maybe 40 years ago in school. My brain had properly dispensed with such a useless and offensive bit of “culture”.

I regret reading it and reminding myself that this is the sort of thing I’d have heard decades ago as a kid. I sure hope my kids don’t hear it in school. It’s definitely not something a person should casually reference or repeat as if it’s harmless.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/answer-to-aspenglow/1003210/10 "2024-07-02T18:02:44Z")

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Apropos of nothing, I heard the rhyme when I was in grade school in the 2000s. Coincidentally am part Chinese and don’t like soda.

~Max
