# Ant Man and the Wasp coming 2018 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 8, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949 "2015-10-08T18:52:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/1 "2015-10-08T18:52:27Z")
No real [details](http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/10/08/marvel-sets-ant-man-and-the-wasp-for-2018) but they announced the sequel to Ant Man and it will feature Wasp (as kind of expected). ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/2 "2015-10-08T19:35:11Z")
Hm. I’m kind of surprised. I didn’t think Ant Man did all that well. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/3 "2015-10-08T19:37:07Z")
Did better than CAPTAIN AMERICA. Might do better than THOR, when it hits China. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/4 "2015-10-08T19:41:24Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > Hm. I’m kind of surprised. I didn’t think Ant Man did all that well. $400 Million world wide. Not bad for a very minor superhero. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/5 "2015-10-08T20:11:59Z")
Oh. When I quit seeing a film advertised to hell and gone that quickly, I just kind of assume it fell off the radar. Wonder what kind of origin story they’ll give the Wasp? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/6 "2015-10-08T20:16:18Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > Oh. > Wonder what kind of origin story they’ll give the Wasp? Came over on the Mayflower? ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/7 "2015-10-08T20:19:52Z")
Oh, this is exciting! The Wasp has always been one of my very favorite superheroines. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/8 "2015-10-08T20:31:13Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Came over on the Mayflower? Fun-ny. In the original comics, Hank Pym’s mad science allowed her to sprout wings, change size, and zap people. In the Ultimate version, she was a mutant. What will they try in the movie? Have her stung by a radioactive wasp? No, wait, nowadays it’s a GENETICALLY ENGINEERED wasp… genetic engineering is the new radiation… ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/9 "2015-10-08T20:31:35Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > Oh. When I quit seeing a film advertised to hell and gone that quickly, I just kind of assume it fell off the radar. > > Wonder what kind of origin story they’ll give the Wasp? pretty much covered that in Ant-Man - granted, its a small roll, but it has wings. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/10 "2015-10-08T20:31:39Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > Wonder what kind of origin story they’ll give the Wasp? They already gave her one in _Ant-Man_: Janet and Hank Pym were costumed crime fighters back in the '80s, but Hank retired to raise their daughter, Hope, after Janet was apparently killed by Hank’s shrinking tech. At the end of the movie, it’s discovered that Janet may still be alive, and trapped at a sub-atomic size, and Hank offers to build his daughter a Wasp suit of her own. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/11 "2015-10-08T20:38:37Z")
Or Wasp could be… Hank Pym’s daughter who was granted the armor in the tag at the end ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/12 "2015-10-08T20:40:12Z")
Or both? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/13 "2015-10-08T20:46:38Z")
I want it to be a Fantastic Voyage search for Janet. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/14 "2015-10-08T20:50:52Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > I want it to be a Fantastic Voyage search for Janet. Fox still owns that word, but now that a deal has been worked out with Sony, it could be a SPECTACULAR Voyage. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/15 "2015-10-09T00:55:03Z")
Is the daughter a character in the comics? If so, does she ever put on a Pym suit and take on superhero status? P.S. I’m lucky to have a few decent second-run discount theaters near me and I was looking forward to a few $2 extra viewings of this movie but, although it’s gone now from first-run theaters, the discount theaters haven’t picked it up yet. Annoyed. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/16 "2015-10-09T01:33:09Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Is the daughter a character in the comics? > If so, does she ever put on a Pym suit and take on superhero status? Not in the mainline Marvel continuity. Hank Pym builds all his children. There’s an alternate universe where all the superheroes’ kids have grown up and become superheroes/villains in their own right. In that one, Hope Pym is The Red Queen, a supervillain with a hate on for Cassandra Lang, because she inherited Pym’s shrinking technology instead of Hope. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/17 "2015-10-18T18:29:59Z")
Bumping to note that Box Office Mojo now has ANT-MAN at $454 million: outgrossing THOR _and_ CAPTAIN AMERICA despite – what else? – a smaller budget than either. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/18 "2015-10-29T21:40:16Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > $400 Million world wide. Not bad for a very minor superhero. Bumping because Box Office Mojo now puts it past the half-a-billion mark worldwide. Kinda can’t _not_ do a sequel, at that point. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/19 "2015-10-29T23:32:30Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Bumping because Box Office Mojo now puts it past the half-a-billion mark worldwide. > > Kinda can’t _not_ do a sequel, at that point. With the set up at the end I think it would have had to _really_ tank for them not to follow it up but I am glad it didn’t fail. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949/20 "2015-10-30T00:25:25Z")
A big reason for the recent bump in worldwide gross is because Ant-Man finally opened in China two weeks ago (Oct. 16) and has grossed about $81 million in that time. It won’t overtake Furious 7\* or even Avengers but it should make over $100m by the time it’s done. I went to see it in theaters opening weekend and the audience was very receptive. Ant-Man has a lot of visual humor that translated well and had the audience laughing. \*China loves foreign movie series about cars and bright colors. See Transformers. If Marvel wants to succeed in China even more, they should start making car movies. Instead of swinging through NYC, Spider-Man should chase the bad guys in his Spider-Mobile. 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-coming-2018/733949.md?page=2)