# Ant-man and the Wasp \[possible spoilers past OP\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 6, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-possible-spoilers-past-op/817392 "2018-07-06T14:44:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-possible-spoilers-past-op/817392/101 "2018-07-26T19:37:03Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > Also - was Hope ever referred to on-screen as “the Wasp”? My daughter pointed out to me that she wasn’t, and I have to admit I don’t specifically remember the name being used. The only thing I can think of is Paul Rudd’s super-enthusiastic line from the previews: _“Ant-Man and the Wasp, teamin’ up!”_ ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-possible-spoilers-past-op/817392/102 "2018-07-27T00:19:28Z")
Liked it a lot, be interesting to see how the thermos full of magic healing dust saves the world, favorite bit was everybody acting out Micheal Pena’s truth serum dialogue, cuz, damn, that shit was funny. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-possible-spoilers-past-op/817392/103 "2018-10-03T04:28:29Z")
I’m surprised to see people calling it better than the first film. I liked it just fine, but it was a slight downgrade: from B- to C+. I missed the first minute or two, came in during Hank Pym’s explanation of how his wife got into the quantum realm. Did they flash something on the screen to indicate when this took place? From the comments here, I’m guessing not—but that seems strange for the sake of casual moviegoers who don’t read the trades and might come into this expecting it to be after “Infinity War” chronologically since it was released later. I don’t have too many nitpicks, but for some reason the one that bothered me was when Hank set the Victorian mansion down on the grass, all cockeyed, and then made it big. There’s no foundation, and it’s down near the beach! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-possible-spoilers-past-op/817392/104 "2018-10-04T00:42:44Z")
The science was all nonsensical, but I could accept that (even though I’ve highly praised other Marvel movies for making a serious effort on the science), because there’s just no way the science _can_ work. The only way to make a movie like this work is to move on from the size-changing spectacles so quickly that you don’t have a chance to think about them, which they did. How do the buildings work without foundations? Look, over there, a giant inflated suit! Similarly, a lot of the visual effects were a little unpolished, and looked almost a little cartoony, and while that would have been a detriment in most movies, here it helped reinforce the cartoony physics. I rented the first one in preparation for the second (I missed it when it was in theaters), and one thing that had me worried was that the chemistry between the two title characters was pretty flat. One would expect that chemistry to be the cornerstone of a movie called _Ant-Man and the Wasp_, but it wasn’t strong enough to support it. But apparently, the movie-makers realized that, too, and didn’t lean too heavily on it. But where they _did_ have great chemistry was between the two father-daughter pairs, and they apparently recognized that, too. I think my favorite bit in the whole movie was “You can do it, because you’re the World’s Greatest Grandma!”. And yeah, Michael Pena on truth serum was gold. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-and-the-wasp-possible-spoilers-past-op/817392.md?page=5)