# Ant-Man (Seen it Thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 17, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-seen-it-thread/725428 "2015-07-17T17:19:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-seen-it-thread/725428/121 "2015-08-06T13:48:19Z")
> [@Double\_Foolscap](#): > > That’s an issue with any film involving super-tech. > > Aww, poor guy can only shrink inorganic matter - so you make billions licencing that tech to freight companies across the world, doofus. Heck, electronics alone… want to carry the equivalent of a Cray in a tablet? No problem. Zap! ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-seen-it-thread/725428/122 "2015-08-09T03:44:27Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Heck, electronics alone… want to carry the equivalent of a Cray in a tablet? No problem. Zap! Depending on which Cray you mean, we’ve actually been able to do that for a while now: [link](http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/09/the-ipad-in-your-hand-as-fast-as-a-supercomputer-of-yore/?module=ArrowsNav&contentCollection=Technology&action=keypress®ion=FixedLeft&pgtype=Blogs) Isn’t the future amazing? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-seen-it-thread/725428/123 "2015-08-10T02:07:39Z")
> [@simster](#): > > What will be interesting is if the postive of all the MCU stuff will help the F4 movie this coming weekend - And that would be a big ol’ NO. A resounding one, even. F4 is officially tanking this weekend. C- Cinemascore, $26MM in gross on a budget of $120MM+. Ant-Man, in it’s fourth weekend, did $7.4MM or 28.24% of what F4 did during it’s opening weekend. Ant-Man is at $147MM domestically while estimates for F4 see it hitting $75MM total gross when all is said and done. Cross your fingers Fox sees the light and cuts a deal. I want that deal to happen and to be Phase 4 of the MCU. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-seen-it-thread/725428/124 "2015-08-10T03:40:10Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > And that would be a big ol’ NO. A resounding one, even. > > F4 is officially tanking this weekend. C- Cinemascore, $26MM in gross on a budget of $120MM+. Ant-Man, in it’s fourth weekend, did $7.4MM or 28.24% of what F4 did during it’s opening weekend. Ant-Man is at $147MM domestically while estimates for F4 see it hitting $75MM total gross when all is said and done. > > Cross your fingers Fox sees the light and cuts a deal. I want that deal to happen and to be Phase 4 of the MCU. yeah - was coming into post this very thing - . ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-seen-it-thread/725428/125 "2015-08-10T19:48:00Z")
Maybe it’s because I never read comic books when I was young enough to get hooked, but superheroes aren’t really all that interesting to me. So I didn’t have an " OMG! They finally made an Ant-Man movie! " when I saw the trailer. I went to see it because it looked light and fun, a la _Guardians of the Galaxy_, and I like Paul Rudd. It was entertaining, but it was also a forest of tired tropes. “He’s a thief with a heart of gold! He’s doing it for his daughter! Hope has daddy issues, and Hank feels guilty about his wife’s death, and wants to protect his daughter! But doesn’t realize he’s holding her back!” And then of course Scott and Hope share the romantic kiss at the end. (That’s one of the things that made _The Kingsmen_ such a subversion of the action film genre: at the end, the attractive young male and female leads had a platonic relationship based on professional respect.) I didn’t find the ludicrous physics took me out of my willing suspension of disbelief _too_ much; but the one scene that did have me rolling my eyes was in the plane, when a stream of carpenter ants flew out of a airliner _and weren’t immediately blown away by the slipstream._ That one, for some reason, had me :smack: -ing. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-seen-it-thread/725428/126 "2015-08-11T16:22:45Z")
I just watched it last night. I’ll put my comments in one post. My assessment of this movie is that Marvel has age-appropriate super hero movies. That doesn’t mean other age groups can’t enjoy them, but that the primary structure of each “age range” movie is different. Winter Soldier is for older, more cynical viewers. It involves corruption, and bad guys who think they are the good guys. Avengers is for the 18-24 crowd. Buddy action, wise cracks. Clear cut heroes and villains, good vs evil. Ant Man is for 13-18 year old. Family issues, cute kid, reluctant hero. It’s like the YA superhero movie. > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > …and it would have been fun to have Marvel have the first POC supervillain. Pirates of the Caribbean villain? I’m picturing Johnny Depp in the Corey Stoll role… > [@Miller](#): > > If he needed someone to pull him up out of the water into the pipe in the ceiling, then Scott couldn’t go in with the first group of ants, because then there’d be no one to pull him up out of the water into the pipe in the ceiling. I never “got” why Ant Man just couldn’t miniaturize and come in hiding on someone’s body. “Body scanners”. Yeah, whatever. Why couldn’t he have come in inside the tank? It got through the scanners. > [@Enderw24](#): > > Oh and if Dr. Pym really wanted to find his wife? Setting up a machine that searches for Hawking Radiation here on Earth would be a good start. Of course, she’d be dead because she hasn’t had a bite to eat in 20 years. What’s that you say? In the sub-atomic world, time has no meaning? Time seemed to pass normally for Ant man. He was gone in the macro world just as long as he was gone in the sub world. > [@Miller](#): > > One thing about that I didn’t quite follow. From his description of what landed him in jail, and his interactions with his ex-wife, it sounded like he was a regular white-collar guy who found out that his employer was corrupt, and decided to do something about it. But his interactions with his crew, with the Pyms, and the scene of him breaking into Hank’s home show him as a skilled and accomplished cat burglar and safe-cracker. I’m not sure how to reconcile these apparent differences in his back story. That had the feel of rewriting. Like there was more back story that got cut by they didn’t excise all references. I’m a design engineer but I can’t climb walls like Scott, or recognize safe brands on sight like I’m Parker. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > [plot idea excised] > > Now I’m annoyed because I think my idea would have worked better than the actual story. I agree. I didn’t think of it during the movie like some of you, but now that I’ve read it, that would have been a great plot! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-seen-it-thread/725428/127 "2017-12-25T18:28:17Z")
Bumped. Just saw it on DVD, and really enjoyed it. Had a fun, light-hearted feel to it, great action sequences and the cast was terrific (esp. Paul Rudd and Michael Pena), even though the science was absurd. Liked all the shout-outs to other superhero comics. Pena’s stream-of-consciousness flashbacks, with everyone (even Stan Lee) having his voice, were especially good. Here’s some fun trivia about the movie from IMDB: [spoiler]The original opening that Edgar Wright wrote was to have a mini-adventure (in homage of _Goldfinger_ (1964)) that the young Hank Pym would infiltrate Panama to retrieve a microfilm and confronted a Panamanian general by the name of Castillo. Jordi Mollà had filmed his scenes as Castillo but was cut. [The director] Peyton Reed admitted that while the standalone adventure was really cool, although filmed, it was disconnected after it was edited together. Reed eventually settled for the existing prologue which bookmarks the confrontation with Mitchell and Hank later on. For the 1980s flashback scenes, de-aging VFX were used on the 70-year-old Michael Douglas and the 57-year-old Martin Donovan [the guy he punched] to make them appear younger, and aging VFX were combined with the wig and make-up 33-year old Hayley Atwell [Agent Carter!] wore to make her appear older. At the beginning of the film, set in 1989, the Triskelion is being constructed. The building was S.H.I.E.L.D’s main quarters in _Captain America: The Winter Soldier_ (2014). A scene set in Cuba, 1962, was shot were Hank Pym shrunk a tank. It was removed from the final movie as Reed felt it removed the element of surprise for the tank’s use in saving Hank later in the film. Scott’s Baskin-Robbins name tag says “Jack” which is understandable considering he was hiding the fact he was just released from prison. He then asks his co-worker “Darby” to take over at the register while he speaks to the manager. Jack and Darby are The names of Paul Rudd’s children in real life. Garrett Morris, who portrays a cab driver in the film, appeared as Ant-Man in a _Saturday Night Live_ (1975) sketch, which was the first live-action appearance of the hero. The army tank keychain Hank Pym carries has number 153 on it, the same number seen on the tank in the surveillance footage of Ant-Man fighting guards near the beginning of the movie. When Cross brings the Hydra agents into the room where the Yellowjacket suit is stored, one of them has part of a tattoo showing above his collar. It is the symbol of the “Ten Rings” terrorist group that kidnapped Tony Stark in the first _Iron Man_ (2008) film. The laser sounds fired from Yellowjacket’s suit are the same sound as the main gun on an AT-AT being fired in the _Star Wars_ movies. Disney owns Marvel and Star Wars. Posters for “Pingo Doce,” the Brazilian soda company Bruce Banner worked for in _The Incredible Hulk_ (2008), can be seen in the San Francisco scenes. When Paul Rudd told his nine-year-old son he was going to be Ant-Man, his son said, “Wow, I can’t wait to see how stupid that’ll be.”[/spoiler] And I see the sequel will be coming out next summer: [Ant-Man and the Wasp - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant-Man_and_the_Wasp) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ant-man-seen-it-thread/725428.md?page=6)