# Anti-abortionists, are you also against the use of contraception? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 1, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474 "2011-07-01T03:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474/81 "2011-07-11T13:47:39Z")
Does the anti-abortion crowd ever pause to consider how many are alive today that were conceived and raised in better circumstances because their mother had an abortion. 16 year old gets pregant, has baby, lives on welfare. When the child is 15, she has a baby, lives on welfare. 16 year old gets pregnant, has abortion, finishes school, gets good job, marries and has three children, who are raised to work and better themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474/82 "2011-07-11T18:02:10Z")
> [@](#): > > It may work fine for a couple with a low sex drive but not for the one’s who have a different drive. Thanks for assuming things about us! I’m sorry about your friends and family who have had difficulties. Anyway, bowing out of the argument- got to go chase my five hundred children! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474/83 "2011-07-11T22:05:47Z")
> [@](#): > > Does the anti-abortion crowd ever pause to consider how many are alive today that were conceived and raised in better circumstances because their mother had an abortion. Some do, many do not. All too often, you see statistics of how many more people there would be, or how many more people of some demographic, if we didn’t have abortion. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474/84 "2011-07-12T00:56:32Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > So if you’re going to argue in favor of allowing abortion, what you really need to argue is that the fetus isn’t a person. Yes. Or, that it is a person, but that the sort of person defined as a fetus doesn’t get the same kinds of considerations that a non-fetus person gets. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474/85 "2011-07-12T02:17:12Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > What do you want addressed? From what I hear it is difficult and should be made easier and more affordable. There should also be better screening in place to weed out abusive people. Which is it? Do you want adoption cheaper and easier, or do you want to have better screening to weed out more people? Because you can’t do both at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474/86 "2011-07-12T12:57:57Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > Yes. Or, that it is a person, but that the sort of person defined as a fetus doesn’t get the same kinds of considerations that a non-fetus person gets. Or alternatively, that they get the _exact same_ consideration that all other people get. No extra-uterine person gets to use my organs against my will. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474/87 "2011-07-13T11:13:57Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Does the anti-abortion crowd ever pause to consider how many are alive today that were conceived and raised in better circumstances because their mother had an abortion. > > 16 year old gets pregant, has baby, lives on welfare. When the child is 15, she has a baby, lives on welfare. > > 16 year old gets pregnant, has abortion, finishes school, gets good job, marries and has three children, who are raised to work and better themselves. How many hundreds of thousands would be alive if Hitler’s mother, or bin-Laden’s mother had an abortion.There are 2 sides to every story! ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474/88 "2011-07-13T11:15:05Z")
> [@Lissla\_Lissar](#): > > Thanks for assuming things about us! > > I’m sorry about your friends and family who have had difficulties. > > Anyway, bowing out of the argument- got to go chase my five hundred children! If the shoe fits then wear it if not it is your choice! ---
**Author:** ![Nica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nica)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474/89 "2011-07-20T16:03:10Z")
I’m pro-life but pro-birth control. In my opinion, human life is not actually be produced until the dna from the sperm and egg unite. Correct? Ending life is wrong in my mind. I always think adoption is a better choice. However, I know orphanages are overrun. A sad lose/lose situation for the kids. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474/90 "2011-07-21T18:36:26Z")
> [@Nica](#): > > I’m pro-life but pro-birth control. In my opinion, human life is not actually be produced until the dna from the sperm and egg unite. Correct? Ending life is wrong in my mind. I always think adoption is a better choice. However, I know orphanages are overrun. A sad lose/lose situation for the kids. If there is no human life in the sperm there will be no conception! Life began eons ago and is a passed on thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-abortionists-are-you-also-against-the-use-of-contraception/587474.md?page=4)