# Anti choice

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 14, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648 "2013-04-14T01:07:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Renee\_RL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7c8e57/32.png) [@Renee\_RL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee_RL)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648/1 "2013-04-14T01:07:30Z")

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Why does the right oppose government intrusion but wants to be in people’s bedrooms, and want to deny women their reproductive freedom?

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648/2 "2013-04-14T01:10:59Z")

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Why is this not in Great Debates? I’ll move it there for you.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648/3 "2013-04-14T01:55:54Z")

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Because what you call “reproductive freedom”, they call the freedom to have your unborn child killed on a whim. You might not agree with the unborn child’s right to live, but how can you not at least comprehend the reasoning?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648/4 "2013-04-14T01:58:30Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Because what you call “reproductive freedom”, they call the freedom to have your unborn child killed. You might not agree with the unborn child’s right to live, but how can you not at least comprehend the reasoning?

Their “reasoning” consists of granting rights to a potential human, and violating the rights of an actual human.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648/5 "2013-04-14T02:12:59Z")

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> [@Prejteach2](#):
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> Why does the right oppose government intrusion but wants to be in people’s bedrooms, and want to deny women their reproductive freedom?

Because they’re bigoted hypocrites and liars who don’t mean what they say, and are in no way well meaning towards anyone who isn’t an American rich white male Christian.

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**Author:** ![Renee\_RL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7c8e57/32.png) [@Renee\_RL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee_RL)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648/6 "2013-04-14T02:24:31Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Because what you call “reproductive freedom”, they call the freedom to have your unborn child killed on a whim. You might not agree with the unborn child’s right to live, but how can you not at least comprehend the reasoning?

An unborn child is an oxymoron.

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**Author:** ![Tollhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tollhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tollhouse)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648/7 "2013-04-14T02:56:21Z")

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> [@Prejteach2](#):
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> Why does the right oppose government intrusion but wants to be in people’s bedrooms, and want to deny women their reproductive freedom?

Are you saying that you do not know what the two sides arguments are?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648/8 "2013-04-14T03:00:46Z")

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> [@Prejteach2](#):
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> Why does the right oppose government intrusion but wants to be in people’s bedrooms, and want to deny women their reproductive freedom?

A small government is alot easier to fit into the average woman’s vagina than a big government.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648/9 "2013-04-14T03:01:29Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Because what you call “reproductive freedom”, they call the freedom to have your unborn child killed on a whim. You might not agree with the unborn child’s right to live, but how can you not at least comprehend the reasoning?

This. The personal attacks above notwithstanding, it is a simple and honestly held belief that a fetus in the womb is a living human being deserving of protection under the law. And that human being’s right to live trumps the convenience of the woman (and the man) who conceived the child.

You may disagree, but to pretend that it’s an outrageous, not to be understood piece of hypocrisy is disingenuous.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choice/655648/10 "2013-04-14T03:01:40Z")

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Never mind. (I initially told one poster to rein in the venom.) Since venom is the primary coin of this thread, I am closing it.

Prejteach2, you are welcome to open a new thread on the topic in this forum, but please do so in a way that will invite discussion rather than vituperation.

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