# Anti-choicers slip soft fetus toys into kids' candy bags at ND state fair

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**Created:** [July 25, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505 "2013-07-25T17:30:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/1 "2013-07-25T17:30:57Z")

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Story [here](http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/squishy-fetus-toys-slipped-kids-candy-bags-north-dakota-fair). Mind you, we’re talking about six-year-olds here.

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> In a particularly creepy ploy, anti-choicers slipped squishy fetus toys into children’s candy bags during a parade a North Dakota State Fair. The doll, called “The Precious One” is manufactured by Heritage House, a pro-life store, and retails for $1.50 apiece, less if you buy them in bulk, which apparently the pro-lifers did, since there were lots of five and six year olds running around squeezing, throwing and playing with their squeezable fetus toys afterwards.
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> Here was the reaction of one mother who attended the event, according to Jezebel:
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> > Amber Mendez, a mother of three who attended Saturday’s parade, was likewise affected by the “Precious Ones” she found in the candy bags her kids got for free during the event. “They’re so lifelike. I’m squeezing it. It’s fleshy.”
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> > Mendez says she’s “in the middle” when it comes to abortion, but feels that her rights as a parent were compromised at the parade when her children were handed the fetuses along with informational pamphlets that included lines like “Week 1: conception; the baby is smaller than a grain of sugar, but the instructions are present for all that this person will ever become.”
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> > “My kids can read,” she said. “I shouldn’t have to explain to five and six-year olds what abortion is at a family event. I doubt these people would be allowed to hand out condoms to little kids. But it’s okay to talk to them about abortion without my permission?”
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> The dolls are designed to brainwash youngsters—pregnant women, too—out of ever terminating an unwanted pregnancy. “Its beautiful detail, softness and weight can really move hearts and change minds,” the Heritage House website says. Usually, the fetus toys are given directly to pregnant women and to kids at school demonstrations.

Of course, it might condition the kids to think a fetus is, you know, just a toy . . . it’s no big deal if you break it . . .

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/2 "2013-07-25T17:34:31Z")

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Is it wrong of me that my first impulse on finding one of those in a gift bag would be to buy a huge cherry slushy, cut the thing up into it then dash it all over the ground in front of the idiots handing them out? Even better if I could get forty or fifty of them in there.

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**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/3 "2013-07-25T17:40:43Z")

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Iowa State Fair starts in a couple weeks, so expect to see these battered, deep-fried and on a stick.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/4 "2013-07-25T17:58:11Z")

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Ummm, your first name wouldn’t happen to be Funnel, would it?

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/5 "2013-07-25T18:02:19Z")

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My kids got religious tracts at the last parade we went to.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/6 "2013-07-25T18:03:13Z")

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I’m “pro-choice” myself, but I have to say that anytime I hear the term “anti-choice” I roll my eyes. It demeans the issue.

I sure as HELL am not excusing the actions of the idiots being pitted. I’m talking about something else. Using the term “anti-choice” shows a willful refusal to admit that there is even a debate. It’s the broken mirror image of “anti-life”. Abortion has never been Life vs Choice or Choice vs. Life. People with a brain know that. The people who use those terms don’t seem to.

And don’t tell me which side used that tactic first. I don’t care. Either term throws up a red flag to me.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/7 "2013-07-25T18:04:00Z")

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Oh this is going to be a fun thread.

I’ll post the same thing here I said on Facebook, which is: I really miss candy cigarettes. That was some good, clean fun. I don’t see how this is an improvement.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/8 "2013-07-25T18:08:10Z")

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> ## “Precious Ones”
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> ## They’re so lifelike. I’m squeezing it. It’s fleshy."
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> Its beautiful detail, softness and weight

So lifelike! So squeezable! Fleshy! Beautiful! Soft and light! **My** _ **PRECIOUS!** _

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/9 "2013-07-25T18:18:28Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Using the term “anti-choice” shows a willful refusal to admit that there is even a debate.

And what’s wrong with **that?** Anyway, I’m certainly not gonna call them “pro-lifers” while Pitting them, that’s just wrong. Is there a third term?

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/10 "2013-07-25T18:29:21Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Is there a third term?

Fundie single-digit-IQ assholes.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/11 "2013-07-25T18:34:46Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> Fundie single-digit-IQ assholes.

OK, that sounds neutral enough . . .

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/12 "2013-07-25T18:38:50Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> I’ll post the same thing here I said on Facebook, which is: I really miss candy cigarettes. That was some good, clean fun. I don’t see how this is an improvement.

How about bubble gum cigars. Those were awesome!!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/13 "2013-07-25T18:39:59Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> Oh this is going to be a fun thread.
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> I’ll post the same thing here I said on Facebook, which is: I really miss candy cigarettes. That was some good, clean fun. I don’t see how this is an improvement.

Yeh, these fetus-dolls ain’t even edible. (They would be more lifelike if they were.)

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/14 "2013-07-25T18:42:00Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> And what’s wrong with **that?** Anyway, I’m certainly not gonna call them “pro-lifers” while Pitting them, that’s just wrong. Is there a third term?

What’s wrong with that? You are putting yourself in a hole while trying to claim the high ground. You have foregone actual criticism in favor of a disingenuous sound bite.

The thing is, I agree with you. Those people should be pitted. It’s just that their message, such as it is, doesn’t really gel with “anti-choice”. They should be pitted for taking this reproductive issue to fucking six year olds. Pit that. Talk about how this is inappropriate for the age group without being ridiculously partisan.

I’m honestly not trying to derail the thread here, but in the abortion debate “anti-life” and “anti-choice” are huge pet peeves of mine. They’re both strawmen.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/15 "2013-07-25T18:44:59Z")

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I just hope one of the kids doesn’t accidentally put it in his mouth thinking its candy and start to choke on it.

It would be awful for somebody to have to yell “Please, somebody, help me pull out this fetus before there’s a dead child!”

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/16 "2013-07-25T18:49:39Z")

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> [@Silver\_Fire](#):
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> My kids got religious tracts at the last parade we went to.

I got a rock. No, I won’t trade you.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/17 "2013-07-25T18:52:21Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> What’s wrong with that? You are putting yourself in a hole while trying to claim the high ground. You have foregone actual criticism in favor of a disingenuous sound bite.

That’s because this is is like gay marriage, it is an area where I can’t even see the **existence** of any **legitimate** debate. Economic conservatives sometimes have points worth listening to; social/religious conservatives are always entirely wrong about everything that distinguishes them from others. In the political sphere, they are nothing but worse than useless to America.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/18 "2013-07-25T18:59:29Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*\*Dogzilla \*\*  
> > Oh this is going to be a fun thread.
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> > I’ll post the same thing here I said on Facebook, which is: I really miss candy cigarettes. That was some good, clean fun. I don’t see how this is an improvement.  
> > Yeh, these fetus-dolls ain’t even edible. (They would be more lifelike if they were.)
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> Yeh, these fetus-dolls ain’t even edible. (They would be more lifelike if they were.)

Maybe they could make them with thin skin and fill them with strawberry jam. When the tykes squeeze them, red goo comes out. More realistic.

“Pro-life” is a damned lie. “Pro-fetus” is more accurate. Most pro-lifers don’t give a damn about human (or animal or even the entire planet) life unless it’s a human in the womb. I’ll allow for the possible exception of the Roman Church.

“Pro-Big Government control of lady parts” takes too long to say, so anti-choice is a good compromise.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/19 "2013-07-25T19:00:20Z")

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Yeah, that sounds pretty typical of these assholes. They hate abortion almost as much as they hate the thought of anyone enjoying themselves.

> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> I’m “pro-choice” myself, but I have to say that anytime I hear the term “anti-choice” I roll my eyes. It demeans the issue.

Oh shut up. Everybody uses the freaking terms and knows what they mean, and if people want to call themselves “pro-life” while occasionally bombing medical clinics and killing doctors, “anti-choice” is far from the worst thing you can call them.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/20 "2013-07-25T19:11:37Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I just hope one of the kids doesn’t accidentally put it in his mouth thinking its candy and start to choke on it.
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> It would be awful for somebody to have to yell “Please, somebody, help me pull out this fetus before there’s a dead child!”

I’m pretty sure it would have to stay in there for the full 9 months.

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