# Anti-choicers slip soft fetus toys into kids' candy bags at ND state fair **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 25, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505 "2013-07-25T17:30:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/81 "2013-07-26T01:51:25Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Actually, according to Lakoff, right wing think tanks have spent tens of millions of dollars framing terms over the last 40+ years. I wonder what LW think-tanks spend their money on? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/82 "2013-07-26T01:53:38Z")
> [@](#): > > The meeting notes also stated that an “active radical left is dedicated to destroy [sic] those who oppose them” with “vicious and unprecedented tactics. We are in a real war; most conservatives are not prepared to fight.” The projection . . . it burns . . . ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/83 "2013-07-26T02:01:49Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I wonder what LW think-tanks spend their money on? Abortions. And weed. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/84 "2013-07-26T02:22:47Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I mean after all, we have all come around to calling the tea-baggers the tea party, right? Not I. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/85 "2013-07-26T02:33:15Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Abortions. > And weed. And they go well together. If the weed gives you the munchies . . . how convenient! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/86 "2013-07-26T02:37:37Z")
I don’t know why I am in this thread. I paid $400 for my operation, and don’t have to worry about it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/87 "2013-07-26T02:39:25Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Putting aside the notion that a group generally gets to pick its own name. I mean in their minds, they are protecting life, in your minds you are protecting choice. Hey! You are the guy who uses “Gun Nuts.” Shame on you. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/88 "2013-07-26T04:01:14Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I don’t know why I am in this thread. > I paid $400 for my operation, and don’t have to worry about it. 🙂 Nah. Too easy. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/89 "2013-07-26T06:16:08Z")
> [@Shoujin](#): > > Oh whiskey tango foxtrot! I delivered a med weight box from this same shipper to one of my customers today. Multiple small objects were jostling around inside it, and the recipient is (based on her mail) very religious. > Think it’d be wrong to ask for one to eat? YES! It would be VERY Wrong. I just hope to Og that these people are scrupulous about packing them in sturdy shipping boxes. I have no desire to spend my workday extracting dozens of artificial feuses from the package processing machine. ---
**Author:** ![Mathematics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@Mathematics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mathematics)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/90 "2013-07-26T06:22:20Z")
I got one of those toys at the reproductive health clinic. It don’t think it was a pro-life thing (they perform abortions), more of just an educational/fun thing. I like it. I’m not entirely sure six year olds would, but. ---
**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/91 "2013-07-26T11:12:36Z")
There was someone giving out anti-abortion flyers when I went to see the Olympic Torch. “Protect the Athletes of Tomorrow” or some shit. Not an appropriate venue, and a really stupid message. There’s no way my genetics are going to produce any kind of athlete, for one. ---
**Author:** ![Shoujin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoujin/32/3884_2.png) [@Shoujin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoujin)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/92 "2013-07-26T11:46:30Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > YES! It would be VERY Wrong.. As if I’d ask…:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/93 "2013-07-26T11:51:45Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > Because giving children sex aids and information on how to use them is not the same as giving children baby dolls and information about a baby’s development. OK, I’m interested in hearing this…what is the big difference? > [@](#): > > and is a natural, positive stage of every human’s development, not a horrific situation that it is reasonable that a parent would want to hide from young children. Quit being a moron and at least try to argue in good faith. Isn’t sex (and safe sex at that) a natural, positive stage within human development? I’m going to take a wild stab in the dark and bet that you are one of those who think sex education shouldn’t be mandatory and/or thinks it should start later 6 years old. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/94 "2013-07-26T12:20:59Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > These little dolls do raise a question: do “pro-lifers” really think that a 10 week old fetus looks just like a miniature full-term baby, or are they just trying to fuck with the emotions of vulnerable people? Most of them really think that, because that’s what they teach each other, and they tend not to do a whole lot of [del]independent research[/del] googling. But someone, somewhere up the “informational” food chain most certainly knows the truth and chooses to mislead his flock. Most of the posters I’ve seen feature pictures of fetuses at least a month older in gestation than the explanations claim, sometimes two. Those are clearly designed to fuck with your emotions, otherwise why be dishonest about gestational age? The doll is labeled 10-12 weeks. Here’s what an [actual 10 week fetus](http://www.ivstatic.com/files/et/imagecache/420/Fetus_Week_10_E.jpg) looks like, if anyone’s interested. I think it’s fascinating and amazing and cool, but no, it doesn’t look like a miniature full-term baby. [12 weeks](http://www.ivillage.com/12-weeks-pregnant/6-c-124907) is a little closer to the truth for head/body and limb proportion, but the facial feature development on the doll is still 6-7 weeks ahead of reality. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/95 "2013-07-26T12:27:00Z")
If one is possessed of a macabre sense of humor, a fun use for those fetus dolls would be tossing them randomly out the door of the Planned Parenthood clinic during an anti-abortion rights protest. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/96 "2013-07-26T13:03:02Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > If one is possessed of a macabre sense of humor, a fun use for those fetus dolls would be tossing them randomly out the door of the Planned Parenthood clinic during an anti-abortion rights protest. :eek: One of those large sling shots. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/97 "2013-07-26T13:16:13Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > One of those large sling shots. > 🙂 Would they fit in a t-shirt air cannon? ---
**Author:** ![fudrucker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fudrucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fudrucker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/98 "2013-07-26T13:22:56Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Maybe you could market these as “Three Dimensional Aubrey Beardsley Drawings”. the Victorian artist thought the image of a human fetus was one of the most grotesque things he ever saw, and used it in a number of his drawings to create a seriously creepy image: > > [http://asterling.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/18/136.jpg](http://asterling.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/18/136.jpg) > > [http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;\_ylt=A0PDoS02l\_FR5GsAUjyJzbkF;\_ylu=X3oDMTFzZWNwbWg4BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZANiYzgxYzZiM2IxYjU3MWVlZjNjMDE4NTRmMzA5NjNjNwRncG9zAzE0Nw--?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Daubrey%2Bbeardsley%2Bdrawings%26\_adv\_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Daubrey%2Bbeardsley%2Bdrawings%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D147&w=320&h=400&imgurl=www.ricsartshop.com%2Fmm5%2Fgraphics%2F00000001%2Fbeardsley086.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ricsartshop.com%2Faubrey-beardsley%2FBeardsley-Enter-Herodias.html&size=27.8KB&name=Enter+Herodias+|+\Aubrey+Beardsley+\<%2Fb\>Art+Poster+Reproductions&p=aubrey+beardsley+drawings&oid=bc81c6b3b1b571eef3c01854f30963c7&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=Enter+Herodias+|+\Aubrey+Beardsley+\<%2Fb\>Art+Poster+Reproductions&b=121&ni=96&no=147&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=1297s8mat&sigb=14lqn84pg&sigi=11q2nb0kp&.crumb=L2MInUhYD2P&fr=yfp-t-900](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoS02l_FR5GsAUjyJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTFzZWNwbWg4BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZANiYzgxYzZiM2IxYjU3MWVlZjNjMDE4NTRmMzA5NjNjNwRncG9zAzE0Nw--?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Daubrey%2Bbeardsley%2Bdrawings%26_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Daubrey%2Bbeardsley%2Bdrawings%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D147&w=320&h=400&imgurl=www.ricsartshop.com%2Fmm5%2Fgraphics%2F00000001%2Fbeardsley086.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ricsartshop.com%2Faubrey-beardsley%2FBeardsley-Enter-Herodias.html&size=27.8KB&name=Enter+Herodias+%7C+%3Cb%3EAubrey+Beardsley+%3C%2Fb%3EArt+Poster+Reproductions&p=aubrey+beardsley+drawings&oid=bc81c6b3b1b571eef3c01854f30963c7&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=Enter+Herodias+%7C+%3Cb%3EAubrey+Beardsley+%3C%2Fb%3EArt+Poster+Reproductions&b=121&ni=96&no=147&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=1297s8mat&sigb=14lqn84pg&sigi=11q2nb0kp&.crumb=L2MInUhYD2P&fr=yfp-t-900) > > [Yahoo Image Search](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoQ1.l_FRSC4AEemJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTFzcGZsZHU2BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZANkOGQzMmZkNmZmNmViNGQ1NTdhOTBkYWRhOTk3YTZlYQRncG9zAzI0Ng--?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Daubrey%2Bbeardsley%2Bdrawings%26_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Daubrey%2Bbeardsley%2Bdrawings%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D246&w=550&h=640&imgurl=www.allpaintings.org%2Fd%2F149298-2%2FAubrey%2BBeardsley%2B-%2BDesign%2Bfor%2BSt%2BPaul_s.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.allpaintings.org%2Fv%2FArt%2BNouveau%2FAubrey%2BBeardsley%2FAubrey%2BBeardsley%2B-%2BDesign%2Bfor%2BSt%2BPaul_s.jpg.html&size=79.8KB&name=)…+Design+for+St+Paul%26%2339%3Bs+%3A%3A+%3Cb%3EAubrey+Beardsley+%3C%2Fb%3E%3A%3A+Allpaintings+Art+Portal&p=aubrey+beardsley+drawings&oid=d8d32fd6ff6eb4d557a90dada997a6ea&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=…+Design+for+St+Paul%26%2339%3Bs+%3A%3A+%3Cb%3EAubrey+Beardsley+%3C%2Fb%3E%3A%3A+Allpaintings+Art+Portal&b=241&ni=96&no=246&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=13bqhkfm3&sigb=14loi2hgf&sigi=12b78dive&.crumb=L2MInUhYD2P&fr=yfp-t-900 Or maybe, if you care to watch[this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gON-8PP6zgQ) whole video you could try to justify this grotesque act of of murder with the same humor ---
**Author:** ![Girlundone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Girlundone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girlundone)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/99 "2013-07-26T13:35:56Z")
Well, life begins at conception and all that…but I’m guessing that passing out week old toy embryos would has less of an impact. I’m thinking I should just back it all the way up the the gametes. I’m going to create a children’s game called “Don’t Spill the Seed”. Little plastic sperm would be shot out of a little air gun and everyone would scramble to put them into the plastic vagina in the middle of the room, the only place god intended them to go. The little foam fetuses would also be perfect for a game of “stone the sinner”. Children would take turns being “it” while others pelted them the fetuses. Safer than actual stones. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505/100 "2013-07-26T13:36:51Z")
> [@fudrucker](#): > > Or maybe, if you care to watch[this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gON-8PP6zgQ) whole video you could try to justify this grotesque act of of murder with the same humor Best $400 I ever spent. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-choicers-slip-soft-fetus-toys-into-kids-candy-bags-at-nd-state-fair/664505.md?page=6)