# Anti-gay bullying is "healthy peer pressure." **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 1, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-bullying-is-healthy-peer-pressure/587479 "2011-07-01T04:46:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-bullying-is-healthy-peer-pressure/587479/181 "2011-07-08T19:17:07Z")
> [@David42](#): > > that was never my response. It is way oversimplified. I double checked the original thread\* and it turns out I was wrong. You asked both your drummer **and** your mom. That totally makes it a legitimate cite. So, should we take **Gyrate** ’s advice from post 160 and have hot, sweaty make-up sex? We could get a room and change our 42’s to 69’s, if you know what I mean. \*(For anyone interested in that old trainwreck: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13984220#post13984220](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13984220#post13984220)) > [@David42](#): > > I asked my drummer doug (extremely liberal, believes in gay marriage) this question: > > Do you recall news stories where gay activists called for gay parents to participate in studies? […] > > I asked my mom the same questions ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-bullying-is-healthy-peer-pressure/587479/182 "2011-07-08T19:25:46Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > I’m glad folks ignored my point that females also get aroused when watching gay porn, since that point makes no sense. But, yeah, I still question that study. I don’t know about watching it, but many of us like to read it. I find porn flicks in general to leave too little to the imagination. I’m a decidedly straight and decidedly un-feminine woman, so what do I know? ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-bullying-is-healthy-peer-pressure/587479/183 "2011-07-08T19:54:33Z")
> [@David42](#): > > There is a difference in respecting a person vs. respecting their arguments. > > It is always appropriate to be polite, especially if you are trying to sway public opinion. > > It is commonly accepted that rudeness is an admission that your position is not correct and you know it. I’m rude to my co-workers when they make homophobic remarks because they damn-well know that I have a bi sister and a gay nephew both of whom I love very much and I won’t tolerate any bullshit on the subject. I view rudeness as entirely proper whenever it’s implied that people I love are somehow defective due to factors that are really no one’s business but theirs anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-bullying-is-healthy-peer-pressure/587479/184 "2011-07-08T20:02:39Z")
> [@eulalia](#): > > I don’t know about watching it, but many of us like to read it. I find porn flicks in general to leave too little to the imagination. > > I’m a decidedly straight and decidedly un-feminine woman, so what do I know? For the love of all that’s hangin’ on a cross, you folks will _not_ let me live down that crazy comment! You were supposed to _ignore it_, eulalia, so that I can forget the fact that I tried to make a point about gay porn that didn’t really make any sense. Now, you all just drop it! ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-bullying-is-healthy-peer-pressure/587479/185 "2011-07-08T20:03:32Z")
> [@David42](#): > > I am mostly supportive of gay rights I think that statement is untrue. And David, I know nothing at all about you except what you have posted on this board. You may think you are being supportive, but _tolerant_ or _pitying_ is the most I can see in your statements. You echo the arguments of bigots, and try to justify their bigotry. If you are intending to be _supportive_, please re-examine your position. Because it’s certainly not coming off that way. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-bullying-is-healthy-peer-pressure/587479/186 "2011-07-08T22:25:17Z")
> [@David42](#): > > It is commonly accepted that rudeness is an admission that your position is not correct and you know it. I’m not prepared to concede that it _IS_ commonly accepted, but even if it is, that doesn’t stop it from being bullshit. On the face of it, the proposition is reductive, dismissive, and simplistic. Hell’s bells, using that as a template, a flat-earther could “win” an argument with a cosmologist merely by successfully goading him into flinging an insult… ---
**Author:** ![howye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@howye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/howye)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-bullying-is-healthy-peer-pressure/587479/187 "2011-07-08T23:47:59Z")
> [@David42](#): > > Arguably being polite shows respect for a person; we may disagree but that is no reason to be rude. > > I do not consider name-calling to be rational argument, but it sure seems to pass for it in certain subjects. > > Throwing glitter on someone is violence. Battery is typically outlawed with language similar to: “Any unwanted touching done in a rude, insulting, or insolent manner.” > > Please keep in mind that I am not claiming all gay activists do things like this, and if previous posts look like that I apologize for over-generalizing. If people would be more careful in their approach rather than seeing red whenever somone has a criticism of the gay movement, we’d solve the problems quicker. > > I am mostly supportive of gay rights, and I mean constructive criticism here. Gay activists who behave in the manner I complain of are impeding their cause. My mother used to alaways say you attract more flies with honey than vinegar, (but I was never sure why she wanted to attract flies to begin with, ha ha). Matthew Shepard - beaten, tied to a fence, and left to die. Newt - had glitter dropped on him. Yeah, those are equivalent. You are a bigot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-bullying-is-healthy-peer-pressure/587479.md?page=9)