# Anti-gay republican gets DUI after leaving gay nightclub **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 4, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307 "2010-03-04T18:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/21 "2010-03-04T19:14:18Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > You see, I’m not a gambling man. But if you asked me to place odds, I’d say the above scenario makes a heck of a lot more sense than some guy who’s rabidly anti-gay being all Liberace McQueeny in his spare time. I mean, who’s ever heard of THAT happening? Never. I remember once the media tried to make up a story about an anti-gay rights Republican guy trying to get blown in a public bathroom, but as it turns out, the guy was NOT seeking glory hole action, and only had a wide stance. It’s a common misunderstanding. Sometimes when I see a guy with a wide stance, I think, “Is he asking me to blow him?” ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/22 "2010-03-04T19:16:35Z")
He went to a nightclub for his secret gay affair? Isn’t that why God invented Craigslist? What I wonder is - who is having sex with all these guys? You’d think it would be harder to get laid than that when you’re a well-know anti-gay crusader. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/23 "2010-03-04T19:17:09Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > So how does he live with himself? My guess? Something like: “I have worked long and hard to fight Teh Gay for my entire political career. I can go to this nightclub/have an affair/whatever, and I’m still doing far more good than harm on this cause - I’ve _earned_ it.” And in that sort of thinking, he’s far from alone. DC’s own Marion Barry, whenever he gets into trouble - as he just did - always protests that he’s working hard for the poor constituents of his ward. Put aside the question of whether or not it’s true - the point is that _he_ believes it, and I suspect that’s how he convinces himself he’s a good elected official in spite of being fantastically corrupt. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/24 "2010-03-04T19:17:45Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > There are guys who think just because you have sex with a man on occasion it doesn’t make you gay. > > I’m not making that up. But… what do they think being gay _IS_, then? ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/25 "2010-03-04T19:19:02Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > There are guys who think just because you have sex with a man on occasion it doesn’t make you gay. > > I’m not making that up. It doesn’t. Being sexually attracted to members of the same sex and not to members of the opposite sex is what makes you gay. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/26 "2010-03-04T19:19:48Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > And before the conservatives come out to chastise me as a typical “librul”, I’m not anti-republican - just anti-hypocrite. I’d post the same thing if he were a democrat. Considering some of the news today, I say put up. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/27 "2010-03-04T19:20:16Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But… what do they think being gay _IS_, then? You know. _Feeling_ gay. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/28 "2010-03-04T19:22:24Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > I am troubled by his apology: > > What exactly are the “actions” that he is apologising for? Visiting a gay bar? Driving while drunk? Having a male friend in the car? Only the second is (IMHO) worth apologising for, unless you think that being gay is a sin or a crime, or he was having an adulterous relationship with his companion. Well certiany tnhe DUI and having an adulterous relationship, man or woman, is something you would apologize for. And while being gay is not a crime, you may feel the need to apologize for lying to your family. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/29 "2010-03-04T19:23:40Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > He went to a nightclub for his secret gay affair? Isn’t that why God invented Craigslist? > > What I wonder is - who is having sex with all these guys? You’d think it would be harder to get laid than that when you’re a well-know anti-gay crusader. I think the answer lies in the fact that they are so closeted and self-deluding. They have spent their lives denying who they are so when the suppressed urges finally snap them they have no idea how to find a little man-love on the low-down. They don’t have access to knowledge about Craigslist, the internet etc… They think “Where do the gays go to meet each other? I know, I’ll go down to that Gay Bar ™ I pass on my way home from work every night” Then they drink too much and get a DUI in a state vehicle. This is where the line between hypocrite and idiot is drawn. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/30 "2010-03-04T19:25:28Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Considering some of the news today, I say put up. Sure thing. [Tammy Baldwin?](http://tammybaldwin.house.gov/) Fah-laming! ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/31 "2010-03-04T19:25:29Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Considering some of the news today, I say put up. What news? I’m not being sarcastic - has a rabidly anti-gay democrat been arrested after leaving a gay night club? I haven’t heard. If so, I’ll start a pit thread for them too. ---
**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/32 "2010-03-04T19:26:05Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > There are guys who think just because you have sex with a man on occasion it doesn’t make you gay. > > I’m not making that up. Well, it could well be that they’re bi. Or horny enough to close their eyes have sex with someone they’re not attracted to. That’s certainly happened plenty of times. But if you are willing to risk your entire reputation and career for a little man-on-man action, I’m thinking you’re probably, actually gay. In the homosexual sense. Not so much in the yippie, hoorah way. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/33 "2010-03-04T19:26:11Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > It doesn’t. Being sexually attracted to members of the same sex and not to members of the opposite sex is what makes you gay. Which is why, when you’re getting blown in a bar parking lot by your rough trade male companion, you should picture some sweet-ass chick with big jugs so you’re not, like, a fag. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/34 "2010-03-04T19:27:40Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But… what do they think being gay _IS_, then? Being sexually attracted to other men. Just _having_ sex with other men is a way to stay true to their marriage vows, and not be sexing up _women_ they’re not married to. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolley – OW! MY EYES! I CAN’T BELIEVE IT! THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THIS WEEK I’VE PULLED MY EYEBALLL MUSCLES!! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/35 "2010-03-04T19:29:35Z")
If he’s a Conservative Christian, he’s not gay. He’s a straight man who has sinned. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/36 "2010-03-04T19:30:50Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > They don’t have access to knowledge about Craigslist, the internet etc… They think “Where do the gays go to meet each other? I know, I’ll go down to that Gay Bar ™ I pass on my way home from work every night” Well, when it comes right down to it, the internet isn’t all that different from a gay bar anyway. After all, they’re both a series of tubes. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/37 "2010-03-04T19:32:01Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > What I cannot picture is what such a person says to himself. My guess is the anti-gay zealots who cruise think everybody feels like they do - everybody is tempted by gay sex. They just gave in to temptation - just like lots of people know they shouldn’t steal, or drink too much, but sometimes just give into temptation. Thieves think everybody’s a thief. Liars think everybody lies. Everybody thinks the world thinks like they do. I think Ashburn thinks everybody is tempted by big sacks o’ man meat - I mean, who wouldn’t be? - but don’t get caught, or are better at resisting temptation. So to him, _being gay_ means thinking there’s nothing _wrong_ with gay sex. As long as you recognize you shouldn’t have gay sex, you’re not gay. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/38 "2010-03-04T19:32:16Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I suspect I can answer my own question for time #1: “It was a one-time thing. I was drunk/under pressure/wanted to experiment.” Whatever. He can tell himself it will never happen again. > > But after multiple times, he can’t tell himself that anymore. > > So how does he live with himself? Sadly, I think that some in this position live with themselves by going back to work as a legislator, and being very, openly, ANTI-GAY. This insulates them in their minds from what they did. “I can’t be gay, because look at how much I hate gays!” It also helps explain people who are anti-gay, but somehow think that being gay is a choice. “See - I’m choosing not to be gay, even though I have sex with men occasionally, and think about sex with men all the time. I hate gays!” ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/39 "2010-03-04T19:34:42Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But… what do they think being gay _IS_, then? Catching, not pitching. At least, in some cases. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/40 "2010-03-04T19:35:20Z")
> [@bup](#): > > My guess is the anti-gay zealots who cruise think everybody feels like they do - everybody is tempted by gay sex. > > They just gave in to temptation - just like lots of people know they shouldn’t steal, or drink too much, but sometimes just give into temptation. > > Thieves think everybody’s a thief. Liars think everybody lies. Everybody thinks the world thinks like they do. I think Ashburn thinks everybody is tempted by big sacks o’ man meat - I mean, who wouldn’t be? - but don’t get caught, or are better at resisting temptation. > > So to him, _being gay_ means thinking there’s nothing _wrong_ with gay sex. As long as you recognize you shouldn’t have gay sex, you’re not gay. Winner, I think. Makes perfect sense. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307.md?page=3)