# Anti-gay republican gets DUI after leaving gay nightclub **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 4, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307 "2010-03-04T18:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/41 "2010-03-04T19:36:57Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > If he’s a Conservative Christian, he’s not gay. He’s a straight man who has sinned. If he were gay, which he’s not, because he’s a Christian, maybe they could [cure him](http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35097496/ns/today-today_people>1=43001). ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/42 "2010-03-04T19:41:43Z")
There is a psychoanalytic term called _[reaction formation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaction_formation)_. In the simplest terms, if a person feels guilty about a particular desire, he or she will shift to the opposite end of the spectrum and become a staunch opponent of said guilty desire, to the point of obsession. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/43 "2010-03-04T19:51:16Z")
This guy is my declared nemesis, being from his area myself. It’s not just one way- he dislikes me as much as I dislike him. Needless to say: I’m pleased greatly. I mean, really: the only thing better than an anti gay rights Republican senator being caught coming out of a gay bar with his boyfriend because he’s getting a DUI is… when it’s my declared nemesis. I’ve waited years for this and now I can’t stop laughing. Last night, before the news broke, a friend who works for the news station emailed to tell me that not only had he been arrested, but it was outside a gay bar with a man in the car. She said they were confirming it, but would break it in a few hours. Again: I’m fucking pleased. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/44 "2010-03-04T19:52:14Z")
It is very easy to hate what you are and try every method of convincing yourself that you aren’t such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/45 "2010-03-04T19:58:06Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > What news? > > I’m not being sarcastic - has a rabidly anti-gay democrat been arrested after leaving a gay night club? I haven’t heard. If so, I’ll start a pit thread for them too. Well, no. But Eric Massa is married, and he is no longer running for reelection to the U.S. Congress. Sexual harassment allegations have been sent to the Ethics Committtee, and word is these involve a male staffer and do not involve salty language. Now, as Democrats are presumably opposed to sexual harassment, and as this was a far bigger news story than yours, perhaps you ought to comment on it. And before anyone rebukes me, the evenhandedness of the OP was a claim that he made at the start. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/46 "2010-03-04T20:02:16Z")
I found a letter I sent to the good Senator years ago when he was running for a Congressional seat. Part of it: > [@](#): > > Perhaps my biggest complaint came from a comment you said in passing; > you mentioned that Senator Costa received funding from a gay rights > group. What exactly was the point of that comment, Senator? Would you > have said a similar comment had he received funding from an African > American rights group? Hispanic? What about Native American? And are > you in a position to criticize his backers? That is a genuine question > because I searched high and low for your PAC contributers and couldn’t > find a list. I’m sure there’s nothing that could be turned against you > by a well meaning opponent, right? > > I understand that this is Bakersfield after all- the Republican hub of > California. And I would be ignorant if I didn’t understand the > politics of my valley; but Senator please don’t insult my ignorance by > using cheap, abusive tactics. And: > [@](#): > > I can honestly say that you epitomize all that is bad in the political > arena today. True facts. I stand by that statement six years later 😛 ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/47 "2010-03-04T20:04:45Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Well, no. But Eric Massa is married, and he is no longer running for reelection to the U.S. Congress. Sexual harassment allegations have been sent to the Ethics Committtee, and word is these involve a male staffer and do not involve salty language. > > Now, as Democrats are presumably opposed to sexual harassment, and as this was a far bigger news story than yours, perhaps you ought to comment on it. And before anyone rebukes me, the evenhandedness of the OP was a claim that he made at the start. I haven’t heard anything about it until now. It seems as of right now that there are only unsubstantiated allegations about misconduct, and I don’t see the rampant hypocrisy. However, if the allegations are substantiated, then this guy is a tool as well. ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/48 "2010-03-04T20:08:34Z")
I’ve even heard people say that if you don’t have gay sex, you actually aren’t gay! ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/49 "2010-03-04T20:13:27Z")
> [@BigBertha](#): > > I’ve even heard people say that if you don’t have gay sex, you actually aren’t gay! There’s something to that. By which I mean: if you don’t have gay sex, there’s not likely to be much extrinsic evidence that you’re gay. There is no way to rebut a person’s own claims about his sexual desires, in other words, if he’s not acting on them, since only he knows what he’s thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/50 "2010-03-04T20:15:29Z")
The pattern, the little bits of pieces that add up, can no longer be ignored. The gays are running the Republican party. I couldn’t say what their plan is, but it all makes sense. Why would they be working so hard against their own interests? Because if they don’t, someone else will, some faction they have no control over. It’s a Vetinarian counter-conspiracy. I must quickly submit this post before they track my brainwaves and send me for re-education. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/51 "2010-03-04T20:16:13Z")
> [@filling\_pages](#): > > But if you are willing to risk your entire reputation and career for a little man-on-man action, I’m thinking you’re probably, actually gay. In the homosexual sense. Not so much in the yippie, hoorah way. I really don’t like your caveman attitude about this. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/52 "2010-03-04T20:18:02Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > There’s something to that. > > By which I mean: if you don’t have gay sex, there’s not likely to be much extrinsic evidence that you’re gay. There is no way to rebut a person’s own claims about his sexual desires, in other words, if he’s not acting on them, since only he knows what he’s thinking. True, I think. I have a friend who, well into his 30’s had never had a girlfriend (or boyfriend for that matter), and had never, as far as we all knew, had sex with anyone. If people ever asked me if he was gay, I had to honestly answer “Actually, I have no idea. Maybe. Maybe not” ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/53 "2010-03-04T20:19:49Z")
> [@BigBertha](#): > > I’ve even heard people say that if you don’t have gay sex, you actually aren’t gay! I lost my virginity thirteen months after I came out to myself. Trust me, during the intervening time I was _gaaaaaaay._ ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/54 "2010-03-04T20:43:50Z")
By now there’s probably a standard form for this or at least have its own code number. "You’re in violation of State Statute JG622-1969, ‘Crime or Misdemeanor Committed While Caught in an Act of Blatant Moral Hypocrisy’, how do you plead?’ ---
**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/55 "2010-03-04T20:50:18Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I really don’t like your caveman attitude about this. I’m sorry, you’re going to have to elaborate. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/56 "2010-03-04T20:54:08Z")
> [@filling\_pages](#): > > I’m sorry, you’re going to have to elaborate. You’ve been whooshed sonny. I’ll give you a hint. What cartoon featured cavemen? What was the theme/intro song? How did it change? How does this relate to your original post? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/57 "2010-03-04T21:01:40Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Well, no. But Eric Massa is married, and he is no longer running for reelection to the U.S. Congress. Sexual harassment allegations have been sent to the Ethics Committtee, and word is these involve a male staffer and do not involve salty language. > > Now, as Democrats are presumably opposed to sexual harassment, and as this was a far bigger news story than yours, perhaps you ought to comment on it. And before anyone rebukes me, the evenhandedness of the OP was a claim that he made at the start. I think that’s a fair response, and Massa serves as an illuminating foil. My answer to you is that Ashburn is not really a hypocrite, which is not the OP’s tack. If you think that being gay is wrong, but that ‘everybody’ is tempted to suck cocks, then being rabidly anti-gay isn’t hypocritical, just devastatingly deluded (also, IMO, hateful, but that’s not relevant here). I wouldn’t call a gambling addict who is the most vociferous opponent of a new casino a hypocrite. I wouldn’t call an alcoholic who thinks the whole world should be dry hypocritical. Maybe we all need to be a little more understanding to our self-hating rabidly-conservative anti-gay-legislating brethren. They’re not consciously hypocritical. They just think we’re all in a boat we’re not in, and they want to legislate some morality they secretly want help with. Pity them. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/58 "2010-03-04T21:01:48Z")
Well, of _course_ he’s a fierce opponent of gay rights! if he comes out in support of gay marriage his boyfriend is going to be non-stop with the hint dropping! ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/59 "2010-03-04T21:02:04Z")
That was a stretch. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/60 "2010-03-04T21:02:12Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > By now there’s probably a standard form for this or at least have its own code number. > > "You’re in violation of State Statute JG622-1969, ‘Crime or Misdemeanor Committed While Caught in an Act of Blatant Moral Hypocrisy’, how do you plead?’ I think this guy is going to have to plead “gay”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307.md?page=4)