# Anti-gay republican gets DUI after leaving gay nightclub **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 4, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307 "2010-03-04T18:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/61 "2010-03-04T21:04:28Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > I think this guy is going to have to plead “gay”. I’d go with no cocktest (please) myself. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/62 "2010-03-04T21:06:34Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > You’ve been whooshed sonny. > > I’ll give you a hint. What cartoon featured cavemen? What was the theme/intro song? How did it change? How does this relate to your original post? That joke was such a fairy! And not in the regularly shuttling people between two relatively close land masses way. ---
**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/63 "2010-03-04T21:19:05Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > You’ve been whooshed sonny. > > I’ll give you a hint. What cartoon featured cavemen? What was the theme/intro song? How did it change? How does this relate to your original post? I thought I might have been whooshed, but the connection didn’t hit for me! You’re right, it does sound like he was having a gay ol’ time. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/64 "2010-03-04T21:57:21Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I wonder if they are in denial or just cynically play the part of rabid anti-gay person because it gets them into office and keeps them there. I’d put my money on cynicism, opportunism, and a general willingness to throw anyone under the bus, any time, anywhere. If he were closeted and discrete, or closeted and left “teh gay” alone, then fine. But this hypocrite paraded as an anti gay moral something or other. He deserves to have his political career end. And, if he wants to pay the field, bat for both teams, whatever, he can start paying alimony and child support. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/65 "2010-03-04T21:57:50Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > What I cannot picture is what such a person says to himself. > > I mean, I can’t be the only person with an internal dialog, right? Not a conversation, as such, but just thinking about what you’re doing, playing out what-if scenarios, planning the next steps of your day/week/life. Right? > > So we have a guy who, to give him the benefit of every doubt, is married, with kids, so he must have self-identified as straight at some point. He must have not been so repulsed with straight sex that he can’t bring himself to bang his wife every now and again. But equally, he must know that he has, or wants to have, gay sex. > > Even if he could make himself just not think about it… what does he do when he’s DONE it? I mean, he’s picked up a guy and had sex with him. Now it’s the next day… what does he tell himself? How does he reconcile the life he’s living with that action? > > I suspect I can answer my own question for time #1: “It was a one-time thing. I was drunk/under pressure/wanted to experiment.” Whatever. He can tell himself it will never happen again. > > But after multiple times, he can’t tell himself that anymore. > > So how does he live with himself? I have no idea if I am actually right about this, I am just theorizing here, but perhaps he is actually bisexual; he has genuine sexual interest in women, loves his wife, wants to be a family man, etc. BUT – he is also attracted to men, and despite his marriage vows, occasionally seeks out random sexual encounters with others of his own gender. He feels guilty enough about this, thinks he really should be able to control his “other inclinations” all the time, that the cognitive dissonance results in his “anti-gay” political stance. Does that scenario make sense to anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/66 "2010-03-04T21:59:08Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > I am troubled by his apology: > > What exactly are the “actions” that he is apologising for? Visiting a gay bar? Driving while drunk? Having a male friend in the car? Only the second is (IMHO) worth apologising for, unless you think that being gay is a sin or a crime, or he was having an adulterous relationship with his companion. Hypocrisy??? Naahhhh, probably not that. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/67 "2010-03-05T01:09:08Z")
and his name is ASHBURN ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/68 "2010-03-05T01:40:41Z")
He’s not gay, he was just doing a little research on the enemy and got carried away with the martinis. So then he took one for the team. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/69 "2010-03-05T03:17:56Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > He’s not gay, he was just doing a little research on the enemy and got carried away with the martinis. So then he took one for the team. I heard from a friend who works for him that someone in the office genuinely suggested this: he was investigating the gay agenda. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/70 "2010-03-05T03:22:22Z")
Come for the music. Stay for the cute little umbrellas. Thats how they get you. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/71 "2010-03-05T03:36:12Z")
So, you think he was pitchin’ or catchin’? ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/72 "2010-03-05T03:45:53Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > So, you think he was pitchin’ or catchin’? Does one make him more or less of a hypocrite? ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/73 "2010-03-05T03:50:41Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > I heard from a friend who works for him that someone in the office genuinely suggested this: he was investigating the gay agenda. > 😛 They have an agenda now? Talk about being organized! ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/74 "2010-03-05T03:52:10Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > They have an agenda now? Talk about being organized! Roberts “fabulous” rules of order. Everybody should have a copy. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/75 "2010-03-05T04:01:16Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > It doesn’t. Being sexually attracted to members of the same sex and not to members of the opposite sex is what makes you gay. Yeah, but the actions follow the attraction in these cases. We aren’t talking about guys who are in prison or doing it for money. They’re doing it because they’re attracted to guys. If you’re not attracted, you don’t seek it out. Straight guys don’t go out looking to suck dick. It just doesn’t happen. It always kind of annoys me to hear guys who reguarly do other guys deny that they’re gay, but that’s how their own denial works, I guess. I wish they’d quit playing games and just admit they’re either gay or bi. All they’re doing is reinforcing the idea to thmselves that it’s not ok. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/76 "2010-03-05T04:05:03Z")
This is a self-parody by the right, right? I mean, this doesn’t even rise to Onion-level creativity. This reminds me of something [these guys](http://roy.ashburn.isgay.com/) would dream up - wait, looks like someone already’s on the ball 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/77 "2010-03-05T04:14:38Z")
Well, it becomes like that quote by Bill Gillman from the book “The Gay Metropolis”, about the history of gay life in New York, about Roy Cohn: > [@](#): > > He didn’t think of himself as gay. He thought a gay person at that time was a hairdresser or a poodle walker. It reminds me of the retired Wall Street lawyer down in North Carolina who says “Hell, I’m not gay. I just like to suck cock. You and all your fancy friends who go to decorating shows-now that’s gay.” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/78 "2010-03-05T04:54:31Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Well, it becomes like that quote by Bill Gillman from the book “The Gay Metropolis”, about the history of gay life in New York, about Roy Cohn: Great scene from ANGELS IN AMERICA- [Not Safe for Work](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98fBiOVEcyI) due to language. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/79 "2010-03-05T05:10:01Z")
> [@bup](#): > > My guess is the anti-gay zealots who cruise think everybody feels like they do - everybody is tempted by gay sex. > > They just gave in to temptation - just like lots of people know they shouldn’t steal, or drink too much, but sometimes just give into temptation. > > Thieves think everybody’s a thief. Liars think everybody lies. Everybody thinks the world thinks like they do. I think Ashburn thinks everybody is tempted by big sacks o’ man meat - I mean, who wouldn’t be? - but don’t get caught, or are better at resisting temptation. > > So to him, _being gay_ means thinking there’s nothing _wrong_ with gay sex. As long as you recognize you shouldn’t have gay sex, you’re not gay. ? What a novel idea ! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307/80 "2010-03-05T05:42:54Z")
He was deep undercover attempting to infiltrate the inner sanctum of gay policy center in the secret gay bar capitol of California. He was trying to loosen the lips of the gay fellow traveler by traveling with him, and to maintain his cover, he had a few too many drinks. But unbeknownest to him he had also be plied with illicit drugs and a gay agenda counter intelligence operation telephoned the co-opted Sacramento PD with their tight uniforms to do a stop and frisk. Alas, our hero is now embarrassed, red-faced and slack jawed, caught with his pants down. His wide stance will not be appreciated with his constituents. But the truth will come out! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gay-republican-gets-dui-after-leaving-gay-nightclub/531307.md?page=5)