# Anti-gun Democrat uses gun inappropriately **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 11, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803 "2015-05-11T19:29:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/1 "2015-05-11T19:29:13Z")
> [@](#): > > One thing we’ve noticed about supporters of gun control is that they tend [to] project their own temper/impulse control/mental health shortcomings onto others. That is, they know that they don’t have the temperament to avoid using firearms when angry, and since they can’t control themselves, they assume everyone else has the same deficiencies. > > It seems like one of those anti-gun Democrats in Detroit proved his own inability to control his temper early Sunday morning, as he blasted away with a shotgun to his girlfriend’s car over what should have been a simple domestic argument. [http://bearingarms.com/anti-gun-democrat-lawmaker-blasts-girlfriends-car-shotgun/](http://bearingarms.com/anti-gun-democrat-lawmaker-blasts-girlfriends-car-shotgun/) ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/2 "2015-05-11T19:37:21Z")
One thing we’ve noticed about [people who profess something] is that [some of those individuals are liars/assholes/hypocrites/inconsistent]. Yep, those silly gun control people. All they want to do is shoot people up! And conversely, all those “no gun regulation” people. All they want to do is never use guns at all! ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/3 "2015-05-11T19:45:40Z")
To a certain extent, I think that everybody thinks that their own thinking is “normal.” I don’t know if the guy was pro-gun control or not. The local papers are mostly focusing on the fact that a state senator was a) trying to blow his ex away with a shotgun, and b) butt-ass naked at the time. Understandably, his political stances are a bit of an afterthought at the moment :o ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/4 "2015-05-11T20:13:21Z")
Another case of a law-abiding citizen getting angry, grabbing the most effective means of emotional response handy, and suddenly becoming no longer law-abiding but actually murderous. If you accept that it can happen to anybody else, no matter how principled and motivated they may be when not angry, then you have to accept that it can happen to you too, right? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/5 "2015-05-11T20:17:56Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > If you accept that it can happen to anybody else, no matter how principled and motivated they may be when not angry, then you have to accept that it can happen to you too, right? No, my former wife is alive and well. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/6 "2015-05-11T20:20:16Z")
I don’t accept that it can happen to me too. Then again, I spend very little time shooting at my ex-girlfriend’s car whilst naked. YMMV. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/7 "2015-05-11T20:28:08Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > To a certain extent, I think that everybody thinks that their own thinking is “normal.” > > I don’t know if the guy was pro-gun control or not. The local papers are mostly focusing on the fact that a state senator was > > a) trying to blow his ex away with a shotgun, and > > b) butt-ass naked at the time. > > Understandably, his political stances are a bit of an afterthought at the moment :o [“…but the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity”](https://youtu.be/YQvCNLIVydM?t=24) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/8 "2015-05-11T20:30:03Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t accept that it can happen to me too. Then again, I spend very little time shooting at my ex-girlfriend’s car whilst naked. So she hasn’t pissed you off. _Yet_. Or maybe she suspects what would happen if she did and is extra careful. Not something to be proud of, either way. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/9 "2015-05-11T20:44:04Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t accept that it can happen to me too. Then again, I spend very little time shooting at my ex-girlfriend’s car whilst naked. YMMV. > > Regards, > Shodan Said another way, you simply haven’t experienced sufficient provocation. Yet. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/10 "2015-05-11T20:49:06Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > So she hasn’t pissed you off. _Yet_. > Or maybe she suspects what would happen if she did and is extra careful. > > Not something to be proud of, either way. I think you are trying to convince us of the truth of this - > [@](#): > > One thing we’ve noticed about supporters of gun control is that they tend [to] project their own temper/impulse control/mental health shortcomings onto others. If you are convinced by introspection that everyone is one break up away from a nude shoot out, then obviously no one should have guns. The flaw in the logic is that most people don’t have the impulse control issues that this person does. So the idea that he apparently had of “Everyone else is as big an ass dingle as I am” is not a good basis for public policy. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/11 "2015-05-11T20:51:26Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t accept that it can happen to me too. Then again, I spend very little time shooting at my ex-girlfriend’s car whilst naked. YMMV. > > Regards, > Shodan No more than a few minutes a week, tops. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/12 "2015-05-11T20:52:29Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Said another way, you simply haven’t experienced sufficient provocation. Yet. Well, no - I have broken up with girl friends (although not for the last thirty-some years) and somehow I managed to keep my pants on and my name out of the newspapers. As I said above, the notion that all it takes is the right trigger and I will drop trou and open fire isn’t valid. If they pre-empt _Wheel of Fortune_, though, all bets are off. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/13 "2015-05-11T20:52:34Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Said another way, you simply haven’t experienced sufficient provocation. Yet. **Shodan** : Sorry to pile on. When I loaded the thread the last post was your #6. ---
**Author:** ![Unpronounceable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9de0a6/32.png) [@Unpronounceable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unpronounceable)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/14 "2015-05-11T20:53:51Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > If you are convinced by introspection that everyone is one break up away from a nude shoot out, then obviously no one should have guns. no, no, no…only _attractive_ people should have guns. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/15 "2015-05-11T20:54:59Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Said another way, you simply haven’t experienced sufficient provocation. Yet. Aw, the old “Everyone could be a cheater / cannibal / Sith Lord / child molester under the right circumstances” line. It curiously ignores the concept of a person having an absolute morality for certain circumstances. Nothing about the OP story suggests anyone was particularly principled, quite the opposite. It’s the same story, apart from a few details, of the gay-hater who gets caught with 5 dicks in him in a public restroom. Looks a lot like projection and not much else. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/16 "2015-05-11T20:56:00Z")
“as he blasted away with a shotgun **to** his girlfriend’s car” Really? ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/17 "2015-05-11T20:59:59Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > …And conversely, all those “no gun regulation” people. All they want to do is never use guns at all! Curiously, the folks I know who do own a ton of guns and want minimal restrictions do everything they can to avoid/prevent situations where the gun has to come out. Again, projection: they assume everyone will be as sensible and diligent as they are. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/18 "2015-05-11T21:02:48Z")
> [@The Great Sun Jester](#): > > Aw, the old “Everyone could be a cheater / cannibal / Sith Lord / child molester under the right circumstances” line. It curiously ignores the concept of a person having an absolute morality for certain circumstances. > > Nothing about the OP story suggests anyone was particularly principled, quite the opposite. It’s the same story, apart from a few details, of the gay-hater who gets caught with 5 dicks in him in a public restroom. Looks a lot like projection and not much else. Whoosh. Not that I gave you much to separate sincerity from sarcasm. Truth be told I was just teasing **Shodan** , not defending the drunken, nude shotgunner. Believe it or not, there is a difference between those two propositions. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/19 "2015-05-11T21:03:05Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > If you are convinced by introspection that everyone is one break up away from a nude shoot out Leaving out “nude”, what convinces me is the tens of thousands of gun deaths a year in the US. > [@](#): > > The flaw in the logic is that most people don’t have the impulse control issues that this person does. IOW, most gun owners have zero murders to their credit. True but hardly a basis for sound public policy. > [@](#): > > So the idea that he apparently had of “Everyone else is as big an ass dingle as I am” is not a good basis for public policy. Not about being an ass in general, just about having the capacity to get really angry. Yes, pretty much everyone does. Including you. > [@](#): > > Regards Tell the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803/20 "2015-05-11T21:06:48Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Whoosh. I was wondering. I’ve never claimed to be particularly bright. 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-gun-democrat-uses-gun-inappropriately/719803.md?page=2)