# Anti-Jehovah's Witness tactics (need answer fast)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 14, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434 "2009-05-14T18:12:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/21 "2009-05-14T19:51:24Z")

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I have not had a visit from the JW’s where they did not leave when I asked them to. (Mine never asked for cash, either.)

You’re not going to confound them with something they haven’t heard rebutted before. You’re not going to un-convert them. Unless you wish to impress yourself, why waste your time?

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/22 "2009-05-14T19:52:27Z")

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> [@Ponderoid](#):
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> my housemate has a big problem saying “no” to them, and keeps letting them come back. She won’t let me stand up for her and say “please leave” either.

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> she actually asked me to help deal with them.

What exactly _does_ she want you to do to “deal with” them?

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/23 "2009-05-14T19:53:28Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I do not care how inoffensive their brand of Christianity is. They are getting in my face to sell a product. Basically telemarketers except they come to your door so are harder to get rid of.
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> If they want to take out print or radio ads fine. If they want to setup a booth on the street fine.
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> I object to people getting in my face to sell something and get particularly miffed when they will not take a simple “no thanks” and go away.
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> It is then that ridicule is appropriate IMO.

You would ridicule a door-to-door salesman who is perfectly content to leave if you simply ask them to?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/24 "2009-05-14T19:56:43Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> You would ridicule a door-to-door salesman who is perfectly content to leave if you simply ask them to?

If I say “no thanks” and they leave it at that and walk away fine.

Ridicule is not my opening gambit. It is the one I fall back on if the person in question continues to bug me after being politely asked to go away from my home.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/25 "2009-05-14T20:00:18Z")

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It seems like the original post was written because the roommate in question wants them to leave, but simply can’t bring herself to ASK them to leave. Escalation from passive compliance to open ridicule has to pass through polite insistence, first.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/26 "2009-05-14T20:02:51Z")

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The last time a pair came to my house, I said, politely, “I’m sorry, this is a devout atheist household,” and they ran. It was true also.  
I don’t think the Catholic gimmick will work, since then you’ve said you’ve bought into the bit. When the Baptists came and I told them I wasn’t interested because I was Jewish, they started to try to save me. The atheist bit worked much better. We’re eeeevil you know.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/27 "2009-05-14T20:06:00Z")

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Greet them at the door. Rub your hands together, cackle evilly and say something like : “The Dark Lord will be pleased with tonight’s sacrifice, BWA-HA-HA-HA !” 😃

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/28 "2009-05-14T20:06:41Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> The last time a pair came to my house, I said, politely, “I’m sorry, this is a devout atheist household,” and they ran. It was true also.  
> I don’t think the Catholic gimmick will work, since then you’ve said you’ve bought into the bit. When the Baptists came and I told them I wasn’t interested because I was Jewish, they started to try to save me. The atheist bit worked much better. We’re eeeevil you know.

Baptists aren’t JW. I’m all for shoving the Bible up the noses of Baptist doorknockers letter by letter, preferably in the original metal type.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/29 "2009-05-14T20:21:27Z")

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I was raised a JW (and left voluntarily at around 14 when I finally had the courage of my convictions to say that I didn’t believe any of it and didn’t think that was likely to change) and did the pioneering thing a couple of times.

I’m sure that quality of response and persistence varies a lot from person to person just like in anything else. But I can say that any rude or inexplicable behavior isn’t likely to be new to them. For us they were just fodder for amusing anecdotes when the various groups gathered for lunch

Frankly, it is an oddly dickish form of passive aggresiveness on the part of your roommate if she isn’t willing to have you simply say “thank you but we’re not interested, please don’t return” but she is ok with you trying to say the worst possible thing mostly likely to “scare” them away.

And if she’s the one who’s been engaging them in conversation then you popping in to say “go away” isn’t necessarily likely to help unless she agrees publicly. They believe they are bringing salvation, why would they let you deny it to her when she appears willing to at least minimally engage.

Really, she needs to just get up the nerve to say to them “Thank you, I’ve appreciated your information but I’m really not interested and please do not come back.”

If, after that, they still do return, then other reactions might be more appropriate.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/30 "2009-05-14T20:35:28Z")

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You can try channeling Fred Phelps and denounce their denomination as pro-sodomite fag-lovers.

Or you could put on your own white shirt and tie and and act as though they came back to hear you preach to them about the Book of Mormon.

Too bad you don’t have an e-meter or you could really have a lot of fun trying to convert them to Scientology.

Or you could do a bit based on the scene in Life of Brian about saying “Jehovah”.

Or you could make a joke about the Jehovah’s Witness Protection Program, or say, “Boy, I bet we could save a a lot of money if we could get you Jehovah’s Witnesses to conduct the census or deliver the mail”.

Or as a last resort, cough and sneeze a lot while making subtle references to the swine flu.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/31 "2009-05-14T20:36:10Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Baptists aren’t JW. I’m all for shoving the Bible up the noses of Baptist doorknockers letter by letter, preferably in the original metal type.

A JW spent a lot of time working on my grandmother, who didn’t mind the company but who (I’m glad to say) wasn’t the least bit interested. So being clearly Jewish wouldn’t have worked for them either, I suspect. I don’t think either is coming back to my house for a spell. so I can’t finish the experiment. Too bad - I’d love to get one into an evolution discussion.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/32 "2009-05-14T20:46:41Z")

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I’ve always had questions about all of the incest in the bible normally it takes a while but they start to get offended and leave, normally right about when I start talking about Jesus having sex with Mary. I find it an entertaining half hour.

A couple of quick points;

The Earth started with a limited population  
The flood killed every one but one family  
Jesus is one and the same as god the father who exists at all places at all times

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**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/33 "2009-05-14T20:47:39Z")

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They came. I had a bit of fun questioning them on why should I believe their One True Belief when there are so many others out there, but I’m not very good at verbal debate. I don’t think on my feet all that well, which is why I asked for help ahead of time.

I did pretend we were short on time, and stongly insisted that they call my phone, not my housemate’s spouse’s phone before arranging a return visit. And hmm… I might have accidentally given them my old cellphone number rather than my current one… Oh well. 🙂

Thanks for all the responses.

\*\*\* Ponder

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/34 "2009-05-14T20:55:34Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Chase them down the street naked with a sword.

Yes, this is the classic, SDMB-approved response. [LINK](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2826351&postcount=18), for those unaware of the incident in question (it’s Post #18 from [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=155187)).

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**Author:** ![meanoldman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@meanoldman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meanoldman)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/35 "2009-05-14T21:07:10Z")

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Darn, I missed your window of opportunity.

For all religious types that have the new testament somewhere in their teachings, I simply tell them to read Matthew 6, verses 1-8. And then say wow, I really feel sorry for you now, because now you have no heavenly reward. Dude. Sorry.😃

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/36 "2009-05-14T21:23:13Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I was thinking of the [Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster](http://www.venganza.org/) myself but either will do. 😉

Don’t forget the [Invisible Pink Unicorn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn).

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/37 "2009-05-14T21:24:35Z")

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Answer the door wearing nothing but a leather g-string and a coating of oil, embrace the JW’s **hard,** and scream joyfully, “I KNEW you’d be back!”

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/38 "2009-05-14T21:57:09Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Chase them down the street naked with a sword.

This is the only way to greet anyone trying to sell you something at the door.

Your friend invited them in. It’s her problem, not yours. If she can’t say no to someone selling GOD door-to-door, then she has a problem. Rescuing her is not your problem.

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**Author:** ![kapntoad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@kapntoad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kapntoad)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/39 "2009-05-14T23:37:41Z")

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If you have decent knowledge of their beliefs, and neighbors you get along with, you could join them. Leave your house and walk along with them to the next house.

They say to your neighbor “We’d like to speak to you about x.”  
And you add “And I’d like to speak to you about why x is wrong.”

Or maybe just “Yes. We’d like to speak to you about x.”  
And keep repeating whatever they say, prefaced with “Yes”.

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**Author:** ![BrandonR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@BrandonR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrandonR)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-jehovahs-witness-tactics-need-answer-fast/496434/40 "2009-05-14T23:46:27Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Strongly disagree with the “be a smartass” direction. They’re just people like everyone else, and don’t deserve to be ridiculed, especially since their version of Christianity is probably the least offensive.

How is going door-to-door and (annoyingly) attempting to convert people the least offensive version of Christianity? To me, the least offensive is the one that can keep their damn mouth shut about their silly beliefs. Their actions are downright _rude_.

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