# Anti-mods, a moment of your time... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2001, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878 "2001-03-14T01:40:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/21 "2001-03-14T12:01:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni \* > \*\*Don’t think it hasn’t crossed my mind. However, if I’m gonna eat something, I’d prefer chewing on something more substantial than a sock. \*\* What if the sock were chocolate-flavored? Curious Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/22 "2001-03-14T12:06:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tristan \* > \*\*It just struck me as odd… someone does something, gets nailed for it (apparently) and gets banned… no explanation, no nothing. I know we don’t deserve an explanation normally, but this one was a little odd, since other than the possible IP issue, there was nothing else done wrong, and when a poster asked about it, basically got told to shut up and accept it. > \*\* Then why not e-Mail Tuba, or Lynn, or Unca Beer? It would have come across as far less confrontational and you’d have probably gotten a much more detailed answer. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/23 "2001-03-14T12:13:12Z")
The Admins, while they don’t openly declare when “So-and-so person has been banned” (except in very, very rare instances), it’s not like they actively go about destroying all the evidence that banned posters ever existed. It’s been stated that threads are rarely deleted so as to keep the evidence of a certain poster’s transgressions. While it’s always bad form to start up a hunt for the latest dirt on someone, I have no doubt that SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE knows why a certain person got banned. You just gotta ask nicely. Something along the lines of “I know it’s none of my business, and I know you’re under no obligation to answer, but why was so-and-so banned? I’m wondering so I can know what behavior is acceptable and what isn’t.” It’s also best to take this exchange to E-mail. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/24 "2001-03-14T13:45:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Redboss \* > \*\*I actually **am** an old man! \*\* Praise the Lord, someone who (might be) older than me! The old dude’s\* right. There are some definite downsides to being in management. - - Sorry, but my daughter calls me “dude,” my bosses, a dozen years my junior, call me “dude.” It’s just rubbed off. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/25 "2001-03-14T13:46:14Z")
Admiral Corrado, here. Tristan- Spoofe’s right. Generally, we don’t like people asking “why was such-and-such banned” in posts because such posts seem to be a sock-puppet/troll/asshole magnet, _especially_ when the person who was banned is one of our regular sock-puppet/troll/assholes. So, in the end, public discussion of why someone was banned generally leads to more annoyance by trolls. The problem is, a lot of our recurring trolls get off on the publicity. So by discussing them, even after their latest incarnation has been banned, we feed their ego, which just encourages them to come back and perster us further. However, if you drop me an e-mail, I’ll probably be happy to privately explain why someone was booted, assuming I know. John P.S.- Thanks, Redboss. Great post. ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/26 "2001-03-14T14:26:29Z")
**Fenris** (and **John Corrado** ) 1. Why assume that anyone who asks about a mod’s decision is an “anti-mod”? I would think there is a difference between discussion of the reasons for a banning, and general opposition to the moderators that the term “anti-mod” implies. 2. The discussion in that particular thread was set off by remarks that **Lynn Bodoni** chose of her own free will to make > [@](#): > > Forgot to change your socks, hmmmm? That’s all right, THIS sock has gone to that Great Dryer Black Hole In The Sky. This, along with similar sentiments expressed by **Coldfire** , seemed to suggest that **WGB** was banned for having attempted to pull off a sock-puppet stunt, albeit unsuccessfully. This is certainly how **WGB** himself understood the banning. (Oddly, this is not one of the two choices given in the OP to this thread). This set off what I see as legitimate discussion of whether this rationale was justified. One of the puzzling habits that the moderators seem to have is to make remarks in the course of administering some disciplinary action that _indicate the reason for that action_, and later, when being challenged on this, to claim that there were other, behind-the-scenes reasons, for the banning. If I might respectfully make a suggestion, it might be a good idea - if publicly citing a reason at all - to cite one that you are prepared to back up. It may be that it is not necessary to discuss the specific reason at all, as **John Corrado** is suggesting, but once one is cited, it would seem to open it up for discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/27 "2001-03-14T14:45:55Z")
\*\* " No,No, Ceecil-Pee-Oh, I said OPEN ALL THE TROLL COMPACTORS ON THE RETENTION LEVEL ! THE RETENTION LEVEL !!\*\*. (Sound of screaming servers and crushing bandwidth). 😃 [minor hijack] Redboss? Beautifully articulated. (Wiping shit off nose here). I mean it. I’m not Management, VERY far from it. However, my career sets me 5 feet away from the biggies in Corporate, Entertainment and Political America. \*ALMOST \* all of them loathe the toadies that surround them. Me, I’ve got a lot of contempt for the power plays. I don’t suck up. I might crack a lot of jokes, and be a shade more polite than normal- but then usually these people DESERVE the respect ( i.e., President Clinton, the CEO of Philip Morris, Tina Turner or BB King, etc.). It sounds like you’ve got a rueful yet humorous approach to the problems. Welcome to the SDMB !! [/minor hijack] Cartooniverse ---
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/28 "2001-03-14T19:01:33Z")
Very nice post, **Redboss**. It made me think about some of my personal relationships. * * * “Who is the greater fool? The fool, or the fool who follows him?” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2001, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/29 "2001-03-14T19:38:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Billdo \* > **Guinastasia** , does this mean that in a later episode we get to see you in a metal bikini being led around by Eutychus the Hutt? > > Billdo Calrisian Only if you’re good. Although that metal does chafe a bit… Now, would you get this walking sock out of my way! ---
**Author:** ![Welfy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e56c9b/32.png) [@Welfy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Welfy)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2001, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/30 "2001-03-17T22:24:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tristan \* > \*\*I’m sorry if it looked like I’m anti-mod… first Welfy goes into self-imposed exile (for her own reasons, and no fault of the mods or anyone else) > > \*\* _enters_ I left because I became sick of the board and I hate people. _exits_ ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2001, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/31 "2001-03-18T04:31:09Z")
[return to Star Wars hijack] Net People did not do this, although we are meant to think they did. Look at these ban-marks. Only Cecilian Stormtroopers are so precise. [/end Star Wars hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2001, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/32 "2001-03-18T05:34:34Z")
(oh please, don’t end the Star Wars hijack - it has so much potential! Too bad Princess is taken already - I wanted to be Princess Featherleia.) I have no idea what Admins and Mods have to deal with, so I don’t feel I have any right to call them out on their actions. And like **Fenris** said, if I really felt they had treated me badly (which they haven’t), I would take my business somewhere else. No one’s forcing anyone to stay around if they hate it here so much. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2001, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/33 "2001-03-18T06:24:34Z")
I’m both glad and sorry to see this thread sinking. Glad because of the constant dread of being cast as the Wookie: too tall, amiable but given to rare bursts of incoherent roaring, happily shooting airlocks while everybody else is off fighting the Dark Side… Sorry because there’s no version of **Redboss Wan Kenobi** that doesn’t sound frankly pitiful and I can’t come up with anything better. Eerie how experience translates; he nailed it first time out. And **Fenris** ; he’s Yoda. I’m sorry; he could be a hunky, yowlin’ Tom Cat of a guy but the mental image is set. Mischievious, wise, savvy about Inner Circle secrets (_splort!_) but I’ll always picture him as small, wizened, gray/green and brushing snakes outta the food. What the hell. This place is an education one way or another. Shootin’ out an airlock just to enjoy the sparks, Veb ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2001, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/34 "2001-03-18T15:48:51Z")
To tell the truth, 99.99% of you don’t even get us _slightly_ upset. Most of the time your posts are entertaining and enlightening, and if you’re ever in Portland look me up and I’ll gladly buy you a brewski. You might even say we think of you fondly as _The Teeming Ewoks._ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2001, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/35 "2001-03-18T16:35:26Z")
:Imperial March Music: _AnyGivenMod:_ “Welcome to the BoardStar, Lord Zotti!” _Lord Zotti:_ “We may _dispense_ with the pleasantries, _Moderator_. I’m here to put _back_ On Topic.” _A.G.M.:_ “I assure you, Lord Zotti, we’ll be back On Topic, on schedule.” _Lord Zotti:_ “_Cecil_ does not _share_ your _optimistic appraisal_ of the _situation_.” _A.G.M.:_ “Cecil asks the impossible. We _need_ more Moderators!” _Lord Zotti:_ “Then perhaps _you_ can tell him that _yourself_, _Moderator_.” _A.G.M.:_ “Cecil is coming here? To the BoardStar!?” _Lord Zotti:_ “That is correct, _Moderator._ And he is _most_ displeased with your _apparent_ lack of _control_ in your _forum_.” _A.G.M.:_ “Then we shall redouble our efforts, Lord Zotti!” _Lord Zotti:_ "I should _hope_ so, for _your_ sake, _Moderator._ Cecil is _not_ as _forgiving_ as _I_ am. _ **ExTank** “Mostly Harmless”_ 😛 :ARGH: :GASP: :THUNK: “Apology _accepted_, Registered Member.” ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2001, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/36 "2001-03-18T17:38:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Welfy \* > _enters_ > > I left because I became sick of the board and I hate people. > > _exits_ > > \*\* Soon they’ll be breeding us like cattle! You’ve got to warn everyone and tell them! The Straight Dope is made of people! You’ve got to tell them! The Straight Dope is people! ---
**Author:** ![Welfy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e56c9b/32.png) [@Welfy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Welfy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2001, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/37 "2001-03-19T01:54:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Welfy \* > > _enters_ > > > > I left because I became sick of the board and I hate people. > > > > _exits_ > > > > \*\* > > Soon they’ll be breeding us like cattle! You’ve got to warn everyone and tell them! The Straight Dope is made of people! You’ve got to tell them! The Straight Dope is people! > \*\* I thought that soylent green is people. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2001, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878/38 "2001-03-19T03:04:07Z")
\*\*Soylent green and the Straightdope is people! It’s people! We’re dealing and eating people! \*\* :: Tristans head explodes :: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-mods-a-moment-of-your-time/57878.md?page=1)