It is when the reason your life sucks are the people you are killing. Those who are oppressed will, when all else fails, try to kill their oppressors–including the civilians who put them in power. That is one of the reasons it is not in any party’s best interest to oppress people to that extent.
It’s not like Israel hasn’t indicated they will never accept Arabs as full people. Remember, Arabic Israelis are secondary citizens due to that law passed in 2018. Self-determination–democracy itself!–is providence only of those of Jewish decent within Israel’s borders.
It states that “the right to exercise national self-determination” in Israel is “unique to the Jewish people.”
It establishes Hebrew as Israel’s official language, and downgrades Arabic — a language widely spoken by Arab Israelis — to a “special status.”
It establishes “Jewish settlement as a national value” and mandates that the state “will labor to encourage and promote its establishment and development.”*
None of those things makes "Arabic Israelis are secondary citizens ". They get to vote, they get to practice their religion, they can serve office. “Arab Israelis, on the other hand, are citizens of Israel and therefore, at least in theory, have access to the same passports, elections, education, health care, infrastructure, and security as Jewish Israelis.”
In fact a good number of the Knesset are Arabic and even Muslim:
Hamas Charter (1988)The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree (evidently a certain kind of tree), would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.[148]Article 22 states that the French revolution, the Russian revolution, colonialism and both world wars were created by the Zionists or forces supportive of Zionism:
You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.
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*Statements on the Holocaust
Hamas has been explicit in its Holocaust denial. In reaction to the Stockholm conference on the Jewish Holocaust, held in late January 2000, Hamas issued a press release that it published on its official website, containing the following statements from a senior leader:
This conference bears a clear Zionist goal, aimed at forging history by hiding the truth about the so-called Holocaust, which is an alleged and invented story with no basis. (…) The invention of these grand illusions of an alleged crime that never occurred, ignoring the millions of dead European victims of Nazism during the war, clearly reveals the racist Zionist face, which believes in the superiority of the Jewish race over the rest of the nations. (…) By these methods, the Jews in the world flout scientific methods of research whenever that research contradicts their racist interests.[346]
In August 2003, senior Hamas official Dr Abd Al-Aziz Al-Rantisi wrote in the Hamas newspaper Al-Risala that the Zionists encouraged murder of Jews by the Nazis with the aim of forcing them to immigrate to Palestine.[347]*
Omar has apologized, and I think it was a genuine apology. I’ve also made clear my views on our obsession with Israel. But, but, but, all of that out of the way…
Her problem is that she’s a global thinker representing a district that isn’t global; it’s local. Her district has local problems, not global ones. I defend her right to criticize Israel, but I’m not her constituent. I also support her constituents rights to vote her ass out if they feel that she’s an embarrassment. And I support the Democratic party’s right to strip her of committee assignments if they think she’s a political liability. I’m an idealist, but also a pragmatist, and I don’t want one person’s crusade to sink what is a much more important vessel of progressive ideology. If she’s not up to the job, then Democrats should primary her ass.
She represents Minneapolis and some attached western suburbs, population @710,000. While we have a history of supporting the same person for long periods of time, if she pisses off too many people then sure, she’ll get primaried and replaced. No, a Republican is NOT going to win that district. It’s a D+24 district and she stomped the Republican 78 to 21.7% even as a complete unknown. That district went for Hillary 74-19. The most competitive it has been was 2006 after Sabo (who held the seat for 28 years) retired. Keith Ellison won with 55.6%.
But anyway, she got a national bully pulpit, she used it. Given the amount of hateful shit people like Steve King and all too many others to name spout on a daily basis, I’m a lot less inclined to expect a Democrat to be perfect and flawless. We don’t elect Mary Fucking Poppins to Congress, we elect actual humans, and a couple of bible verses come immediately to mind when Republicans point out her flaws. Something about a splinter and a great beam, I believe.
Finally,
Minneapolis and the suburbs in that district have a decent Jewish population. Hell, the city of St. Louis Park has for decades been called “St. Jewish Park”. There is no local Jewish call for her censure or resignation.
This Is a very biased source, but if true, is rather damning:
*Democratic freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar (D., Minn.) has been holding a series of secret fundraisers with groups that have been tied to the support of terrorism, appearances that have been closed to the press and hidden from public view.
The content of these speeches, given to predominately Muslim audiences, remains unknown, prompting some of Omar’s critics to express concern about the type of rhetoric she is using before these paying audiences, particularly in light of the lawmaker’s repeated use of anti-Semitic tropes in public.
Omar recently spoke in Florida at a private event hosted by Islamic Relief, a charity organization long said to have deep ties to groups that advocate terrorism against Israel. Over the weekend, she will appear at another private event in California that is hosted by CAIR-CA PAC, a political action committee affiliated with the Council on American Islamic Relations, or CAIR a group that was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in a massive terror-funding incident.*
*Islamic relief *is indeed alleged to fund Terrorism thru Hamas:
*lslamic Relief Worldwide (IRW), a Muslim charity that has been branded a terrorist organisation by the United Arab Emirates (UAE), has established a registered branch in Ireland.
The international charity, founded in 1984 in the United Kingdom, insists it has no links to terrorism, but it was banned in 2014 by the UAE because of its perceived links to the Muslim Brotherhood, whose brand of Islam is seen as a threat by the royal families of the Gulf.
Israel banned it from the West Bank in the same year after accusing it of being a source of funding for Hamas, the Palestinian terror group.
HSBC ended its banking links with the charity after concerns that cash aid could end up with terrorist groups.*
T*he largest U.S. Muslim Charity, which has been linked to terrorism finance, is now playing a role in helping to settle refugees from terror torn Syria.
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Look, many governments and orgs have said that " charity" has sent funds to Hamas to support terrorism. I have given you multiple cites. At this point in time, you will have to show that they dont.
What facts are these accusations against Omar based on? As far as I can see, the only supposed evidence provided is that some Breitbart-esque hack site says that Omar might have secretly said some unknown words to groups that may have included ties to some of these groups. That seems like a pretty damn weak set of “facts” to base an accusation on.
Doing more fact checking, yes she gave those talks. However, she supported Islamic Relief USA, not Islamic Relief *Worldwide. * Altho The USA org is related to the worldwide “charity”, the USA charity has not been linked in any way to terrorism.
So that link exaggerated and conflated two groups, that while related are not the same.
You have given cites that there have been accusations. That is not in question. The question is the facts those accusations are based on. And? :dubious:
One thing I do to avoid this sort of mistake is not to use terrible cites at all. Don’t even offer them in an “I dunno if it’s true, but people are saying…” sense. Terrible cites are terrible cites.
You could start with looking up “genocide” in a dictionary, and it ends when you realize that not only have the Israelis done nothing remotely resembling genocide, but that Arabs who live in Israel have more rights, freedom and economic power than those in other Arab nations, and until the first Intifada started, this was true of those living in the West Bank and Gaza as well.
The messed-up thing is that Rep. Omar did not accuse American Jews as a group of having dual loyalty. Her target was only Senate Republicans. Here we have Trump not only implying that American Jews have dual loyalty, but he is also implying they have singular loyalty.
His statement is much worse. The Dems and Republicans who crapped their pants over what Rep. Omar said should be having a fit now, but no. He gets yet another mulligan because we’re all relieved he didn’t slip up and call anyone a “money-grubbing hebe”.
I look forward to the day when there are no more blatantly unfair double standards like this in government.