There are three altogether, but there are quite a few state reps.
All Palestine has to do is stop the terrorism, which is against all laws, ethics and morality. However, they have made it a way of life, they appear unable to.
Once they stop, they will get my sympathy. Until then they are the basest sort of criminals, targeting school kids in buses.
It’s very simple- **stop the terrorism. **
Even more collective blame! Bravo to you for putting that responsibility and blame on every Palestinian man, woman, and child!
It’s not “Palestine” attacking Israel – it’s a faction within “Palestine” that is attacking Israel.
What Israel is doing is saying that collective punishment is acceptable because they’re God’s chosen ones and they’re victims of the holocaust. Ironically, the lesson of the post-WWII era (4th Geneva Convention, to be exact) is that the civilized world made a concerted effort to say that **collective punishment **was against the laws of humanity.
Mind you, I don’t believe all Israelis endorse or embrace Netanyahu and Likudism.
Oh God, what imbecilic rubbish!
First of all, there is no Palestine because Israel won’t allow for a real Palestinian state to develop. But beyond that is this notion that all citizens of a territory (which it occupies illegally under international law, incidentally) can be punished collectively for the actions of a few rogues.
I know this: you clearly know very little of the history over there – very little.
Who elected the Terrorist government?
if it was just a few rogue terrorists, that’d be one thing- but it is the actual government, which is quite popular with the people. This is institutionalized terrorism, not just a few randos.
It’s a very popular faction, approved by the government.
And bus bombings and random mortar and rocket attacks- are they not collective punishment?
Israel build settlements- Palestine bombs schoolkids and random rocket attacks.
And Israel elected Netanyahu, therefore, it’s okay to make sweeping generalizations about Jews, right?
Here’s the bottom line. Nothing Omar said was an attack on Jews. Nothing she said was threatening to Jews, whether we’re talking about global Jewry or Jews in America. Her comments were completely in the context of the American-Israeli political nexus and nothing more. There’s not a single person here who seriously argue otherwise, and there’s not a single person reading this who believes that her comments in and of themselves are antisemitic. They simply believe that Omar is antisemitic because of her ethnicity. And this speaks to the degree to which Americans have been brainwashed into believing Israel = Jew, and Jew = Israel. Therefore, criticizing Israeli political influence = criticizing American Jewishness.
Seriously, why do so many Americans give a toss about Israel? I mean I care about England and Germany, like a little, because of my ancestry, but I’m not going to defend English or German attempts to influence American politics. Why does Israel matter? Why is America so concerned with Israel’s “right to exist”?
Not about Jews, but yes about the Government of Israel. I dunno what Netanyahu has to do with the millions of Jews here in the USA, from what I see, he’s pretty unpopular here.
Note my comments: “All Palestine has to do…” “if Palestine would stop with terrorist attacks” and “*Until and when Palestine stops with the state sanctioned terrorism, *…”: I am blaming the **state of Palestine, **and the people who support it.
I am sure numerous Palestin*ians * dont support the terrorism. But the government does.
LOL! I’ll respond when you come back with something better than a Sean Hannity level response because you clearly know nothing about the history over there.
“But they’ve been killing each other for thousands and thousands of years!!!” BWAHAHA!:rolleyes:
Which is fine because Americans have, like, a lot more baked-in prejudice for Israel and against Palestinians and Muslims period - even though most probably would fail a basic geography quiz.
Uh, because those things are completely irrelevant to the topic.
This has already been covered by others in the thread. Glenn Greenwald had a Twitter thread in which he said “GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy threatens punishment for @IlhanMN and @RashidaTlaib over their criticisms of Israel. It’s stunning how much time US political leaders spend defending a foreign nation even if it means attacking free speech rights of Americans”. Then added things such as, after mentioning that Keith Ellison was the first Muslim elected to Congress, “He was also viciously vilified as an anti-Semite - by the DNC’s largest billionaire donor. Perhaps there’s a pattern to be seen here?” So in a thread about the topic of Israel, and attacks vs defense of Israel, Greenwald chose to bring up the topic of Jews and their money. Then Omar responded to the first tweet with her “Benjamins” comments, obviously implying that she agreed with the notion that the Jews and their money are what drives support of Israel.
And to note, many Democrats immediately saw the issue and criticized the tweet on those grounds, and she deleted it and issued an apology.
That’s how weaponized language is supposed to work.
I didnt say that.
*Hamas leader ‘not denying’ that West Bank terror attacks were ordered from Gaza
Ismail Haniyeh also says Palestinian men in the West Bank do not need orders to carry out attacks against Israelis; adds that he is ready to meet Abbas.Hamas Politburo chairman Ismail Haniyeh said on Sunday he does not deny that orders to carry out recent deadly terror attacks in the West Bank came from the Gaza Strip.
…“I will also respond to the Zionists who are saying what is happening in the West Bank is based on directives and arrangements from Gaza,” Haniyeh said in the hour-long speech. “This is an accusation we do not deny… because it is a source of pride reigning over all of us.”*
*Hamas uses its provision of social services to build support amongst grassroots Palestinians, helping it to win the 2006 Palestinian legislative elections. However, the group’s engagement in politics and welfare has not tempered its commitment to terrorism. Hamas’s preferred methods include suicide bombings, rocket and mortar attacks, shootings, and kidnappings. Hamas as a whole or its armed faction have been labeled terrorist organizations by the United States, Israel, the United Kingdom, the European Union, New Zealand, Australia, and Japan…Governance did not moderate Hamas. The group has been responsible for thousands of Qassam rockets fired at Israeli towns,…Hamas reaffirmed its refusal to recognize Israel, as well as its commitments to violence and the creation of a Palestinian state in the entirety of the land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. …
Hamas has thus far refused to disarm and its leaders have remained committed to the group’s strategy of so-called armed resistance. Despite the new political document and reconciliation agreement with Fatah, Hamas shows no signs of renouncing its dedication to violence or the creation of an Islamist state.Theme Four: Israel and “armed resistance”
Hamas recognizes the fact that Israel exists, but does not recognize its legitimacy or right to exist. The introduction to the charter quotes Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna as saying “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”* Hamas upholds “armed resistance” as the only method to liberate Palestine. In Article 13 of the charter, Hamas renounces all peace plans or negotiations to resolve the issue of Palestine. Negotiations are a “contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against [Islam]….”**
I see on open secrets that pro-Israel PACs combined (including liberal ones) contributed about the same as the air traffic controllers. So yes, I still think your line of argument here is foolish.
I don’t know what you’re talking about, but I assume it’s the same drivel that is trying to make me look like an AIPAC/Netanyahu fan. So I consider it to be silly as well, and don’t even know how to respond.
Hamas speaks for all Palestinian interests in the West Bank?
Sure. That doesn’t mean she isn’t an antisemite, maybe only slightly, but still really. Both can be true.
Hams is the defacto government of Gaza. And vies with Fatah for the West Bank. They openly fight with one another for control.
wiki “Since June 2007, the Fatah-led governments have exercised authority in Ramallah, West Bank, and has been recognized as the official government of the Palestinian Authority; while since Hamas took control in the Gaza Strip, it has exercised de facto control there, ousting Fatah PNA representatives in June 2007.”
Admittedly Fatah has recently publicly eschewed terrorism. But they wont condemn Hamas for it.
*The victory of the radical terrorist group Hamas in January elections has cast leaders of the Fatah movement, ironically, as the doves of Palestinian politics. *
So, it more Hamas that’s the problem. Fatah has matured, somewhat.
You know, this has become a hijack. go ahead and start a new thread about Hamas and Terrorism, and the wrongs of the Israeli government.
Back to the Congresswoman.