Detroit and the american automobile industry in general, sure. Ford at the expense of Chrysler, no.
I hadn’t heard of that, and now that I have, I do consider it to be bad. I didn’t like when the CEO of Boeing got to be deputy of the DOJ, and I liked it even less when he became acting AG.
Hmmm, having not heard of “scoop jackson” I google, and wikipedia tells me that he was a senator in the 40’s and early 50’s.
Is that relevant?
We’re not getting into this here. Whether or not it was a “correct” statement, the question was whether it was offensive.
I tried to locate this Pledge that Cynthia McKinney and all other Congresspeople supposedly had to sign, but all I could find were references to McKinney’s “bombshell” comment, plus one site that said the Pledge was Top Sekrut and they couldn’t reproduce it, but instead posted an alleged U.K. version which lawmakers over there were similarly compelled to sign and are lying to their constituents about having supported. :dubious:
My favorite part of the linked McKinney interview:
*McKinney: "So, yes I first handedly and also frontally was assaulted by the presence of the pro Israeli lobby.
Press TV: Were you physically assaulted?
McKinney: Well, politically assaulted to such an extent that my father had to ask the question publically, 'what does stoned mountain Georgia have to do with Israel? What I was doing was servicing the needs of my constituents and I was not allowed to do that because I did not toe the line on US policy for Israel. "*
McKinney appears to have spent way too much time on Stoned Mountain.
I’ll grant you that plenty of people are probably using this as an opportunity wave their Islamophobia around and get away with it. But I think a good many people are rightly pissed about a legit issue.
Yeah, without seeing this so-called “pledge” I have grave doubts…:dubious:… Congresscitters are allergic to signing things like that. And of course Stone Mountain is the heart and soul of KKK country, so…
to show how language gets highjacked, Arabs are semitic just like Jews, so how can she be "anti-Semitic? Anti-Israel is not same as anti-Semitic, even though Israel and American Jews throw that around loosely
remember the Pollard spy case? The number of American Jews stealing secrets? Israel criticizing Andrew Young for meeting with Palestinians, like they control our politics?
So based on the news, the Democrats crafted the bill to be a refutation/condemnation of anti-semitism as well as other forms of bigotry, and all Democrats voted for it (including Omar!), while several Republicans voted against it.
did American Jews criticize Israel when they massacred American sailors on USS Liberty? Did they criticize Israel when a Hasidic Jew murdered 2 innocent Black kids in Crown Heights and ran away to Israel? Did they criticize Israel when our so-called ally defied US sanctions and sold arms to aparteit South Africa?
This is such a gross problem, because when one argues against an overbroad interpretation of “antisemitism,” inevitably someone comes along and chimes in with genuinely antisemitic nonsense.
These senators want to make it illegal to organize boycotts against Israel. So many people on this board think it’s perfectly fine to destroy a small business because the owners hold a belief contrary to theirs. Actions have consequences don’t you know? It’s free speech. I guess free speech is not allowed for critics of Israel.
What I want to know – do people here find Palestinians innocent? I am NOT saying that Israel is either. But there are attrocities on both sides – HAMAS, for example, is hardly an organization of charity.
The whole region is a mess. It’s not a case of “one side good, one side bad.” So why is it “I support Side X, that means I hate Side Y?”
Saying, "hey, Israel has a right to exist doesn’t mean that Palestinians should be shit on, nor does it give Israel free reign, or make them free from criticism. It’s the fact that some people use it as an excuse to let their antisemitism freak flags fly. Just like people do so after 9-11, using it as an excuse to go around and spew all kinds of Islamophobic bullshit.
So she owns loyalty to two governments, one of which is AFAIK the most pro-Israel of any in the world, and one of which does not recognize Israel as a nation-state.
Two of my three children are dual citizens. My daughter is officially loyal to both the United States, and the country it rebelled against, the United Kingdom. So if she favors a trade deal to help Britain weather Brexit, where does her loyalty lie?
I don’t have a problem with divided loyalty. Having pure and undivided loyalty may well lead to worse policy decisions. I’d have a little less distrust of Ted Cruz if he hadn’t renounced his Canadian citizenship.
It is entirely possible that having a deep understanding of Somali viewpoints helps you better understand the Palestinian narrative. You could say something comparable about any Israeli-American dual citizens in Congress. I don’t think there are any, but I’d be glad to see a few.
So Somalis in Congress are fine with me. As a Jew, I do have a problem with having dual loyalty charges thrown up to dismiss my views.
I find it a stretch that she got “it’s all about the Benjamins” from Somali culture. And I think the idea that Jews have some unique dual loyalty problem comes out of European culture. As for hypnotism, I googled:
somalia hypnosis
and limited the response to prior to 2018. It just doesn’t seem that hypnotism has much to do with Somali culture. I don’t know where she got her animus against my religion from, but would want to see actual evidence she grew up with those memes before blaming Somali culture.
I fear that this does have something to do with Trump having lowered standards for what counts as unacceptable ethnic demagoguery.
