Anti-SSM argument goes from stupid to... what the heck is this?

Now that we’re in the Pit, Melchior, I’d like to take this opportunity to express my utter contempt for you.

You are not brave enough to be an honest bigot. Instead, you hide behind pathetic and illogical semantic arguments. You and others like you have made my life as a gay man really difficult at times.

Not all men are interested in having sex with women. Other than that, we are men just like you, and we deserve the same rights that you have. That includes the right to choose a mate and form a household and have society recognize that with society’s term for partnered people running households. I’m sorry that you don’t like it, but you are insufficiently educated in history or anthropology or linguistics to make the arguments you are making.

My marriage is a real one, and I expect you to man up and apologize to me for the insult when you said it was a “Cargo-Cult marriage.”

Oh yea, we’re in the pit now so I can just openly mock him.

Melchior, you do sound like you’re fairly smart in an academic sense. (ok, that part wasn’t mocking) When it comes to common sense or even relating to other people, you’re clearly an idiot. Like it or not, gay people are being married every single day and they are real marriages. You can rail about it all you like, but you lose. Words change, customs change. You may not like it, but most of us don’t give a flying fuck. You lose. Get over it. I don’t have to present an argument, but when I have a marriage license from the state of California…I will be married.

And just for the hell of it; You didn’t answer last time it was asked…but how old are you? For a 2nd question, have you ever been in a serious relationship or married?

You expect a limp-dicked asshole like Mel to man up?
Good luck with that. He a douchebag who ignores and argument he can’t rebut, replies with the weak-ass “not an argument” to anything else, and tries to torture language to suit his needs.

Plus he’s yet another mental midget who acts as if he’s superior when he can’t hold his own against a bunch of random strangers on the internet.

I make no apologies. Save your contempt for others.

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No, these are not ‘real marriages’. Cargo Cult marriages.

Correct.

Didn’t think you had any better. No one gives a shit what you think. I also didn’t think you’d answer my questions. As mentioned earlier, you’re a chicken shit that hides behind the ‘meaning’ of words.

Yes, they are.

See, I told you guys we’d get to "“pbbbbbth” as an argument.

If one accomplishes literally everything that a given opposite-sex marriage does, then what makes one a cargo-cult marriage and the other the genuine article?

How can one believe that when one believes they cannot even have a relationship?

What does the phrase “Cargo Cult marriage” even mean? Do you imagine that they just wait for something to fall out of the sky? Two men in a marriage work at it every day, exactly the same as any other married couple. Where is the “magic thinking” that is so definitive of a Cargo Cult?

It seems to me that it’s just an insult for insult’s sake. The Pit is where garbage like that belongs.

No they’re not. Wait, yes they are. Damn it all, I’m getting confused now.

Presumably he believes they have something otherwise indistinguishable from a relationship, which is functionally identical to a relationship, but which he can’t bring himself to actually call “a relationship,” though by any other name et cetera and so on.

I’ve heard similar from the far right christians. They typically say things like 'homosexuals are just playing house".

I don’t have much more to add at this point, but now that we’re in The Pit, I’d just like to say this to Melchior:

I’m eagerly awaiting the day that you get your shiny, new, all-caps title and your post count immortalized in bronze. You’ve been detrimental to intelligent discourse on this board since the day you arrived and started spewing your pedantic claptrap in that thread about intelligent life evolving in the ocean. Now it’s gotten to the point where it’s apparently impossible for the rest of us to have a discussion about same-sex marriage without you coming in and hijacking the thread with the same bullshit over and over again.

To paraphrase a much older post by and about a different user (for whom I have much to disagree with, but still far more respect): “You’re just a fucking puppet. We can pull the strings and you do the same little dance.” This board is poorer for having you. You will not be missed.

Which part of his marriage lacks authenticity?

The love? The commitment? The legal protections afforded them?

Or is it simply the absence of a vagina of one of the spouses?

I was going to sit this one out, Melchior, until your refusal to apologize to Dr. Drake. It’s one thing to denigrate an abstract group of people. It’s quite another to insult someone personally after they’ve bared their humanity to you. I like Dr. Drake and our many other LGBT posters, darn it-- I like you guys a lot!

So: I despise your bigotry and your willful ignorance, Melchior. What a hateful person you are.

You know, BPC raised a pretty decent point in post 741 when he analyzed your use of that term. I’d like to see you address his observation, and justify your continued use of it, in light of the following:

Would you be good enough to oblige?

While I’m sure Dr. Drake appreciates your concern, he’s a grown man; he strikes me as quite well-qualified to decide where to spend his contempt.

And if he depletes his stores, I’m equally sure that a great many other posters will be happy to lend him some of theirs.

Excuse me, ours. :slight_smile: