# Anti-Trump protesters stream torture of mentally disabled person on Facebook Live **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384 "2017-01-05T14:02:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/21 "2017-01-05T16:49:52Z")
Prosecute per the law. Realize that Racism is not the proper response to Racism. Its all we can do, besides not raising our kids to be Asshole Racists. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/22 "2017-01-05T17:05:26Z")
Mandatory minimum sentences seem adequate in this case ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/23 "2017-01-05T17:15:54Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > d’nt do nuffin is a take off of L’il Abner Sure, if you’re referring to a story about two good-natured hillbillies and your audience is 60 years old. In this case, it’s just you being racist. And these weren’t “liberals”; they were just assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/24 "2017-01-05T17:25:23Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Sure, if you’re referring to a story about two good-natured hillbillies and your audience is 60 years old. In this case, it’s just you being racist. And these weren’t “liberals”; they were just assholes. Correct spelling is not Racist , and it was not a “Story” it was a Long running Broadway show ( With many accolades ) a long running award winning newspaper comic strip, an "Oscar " nominated Movie Musical " ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/25 "2017-01-05T17:27:29Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Sure, if you’re referring to a story about two good-natured hillbillies and your audience is 60 years old. In this case, it’s just you being racist. And these weren’t “liberals”; they were just assholes. In this case the “Assholes” we’re not racist , but my posts and me are … ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/26 "2017-01-05T17:27:57Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > d’nt do nuffin is a take off of L’il Abner What about the “my baby” part, which is somewhat close to “[good boy](http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/961056-dindu-nuffin)”? If both parts are accidental, [you really stumbled on a bad one.](http://www.dailystormer.com/tag/dindu-nuffin/) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/27 "2017-01-05T17:54:57Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Ah, this event was probably a false flag operation anyway. You wait and see! [sarcasm] Aw, _I_ was going to put sauce on the gander! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/28 "2017-01-05T17:58:14Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > In this case the “Assholes” we’re not racist , but my posts and me are … Of course they were, but you keep trying to spin what you are. It isn’t selling. ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/29 "2017-01-05T17:58:35Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Is this really a situation for snark? Sure it is. Because it’s also going to get used for false equivalence: “See, your side does it, too, so we’re exactly equal and it’s OK when we do it!” In fact, that’s basically the point of this thread, no? ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/30 "2017-01-05T18:22:34Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > Sure it is. Because it’s also going to get used for false equivalence: “See, your side does it, too, so we’re exactly equal and it’s OK when we do it!” In fact, that’s basically the point of this thread, no? Hm. No, the other side doesn’t “do it, too”. Maybe you can point at some incident (let’s say during the Obama administration years) where a group of white thugs tortured a black man while shouting “F-ck Obama! F-ck black people!”? Because I don’t recall that happening. Maybe I missed it? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/31 "2017-01-05T18:31:59Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Hm. No, the other side doesn’t “do it, too”. Maybe you can point at some incident (let’s say during the Obama administration years) where a group of white thugs tortured a black man while shouting “F-ck Obama! F-ck black people!”? Because I don’t recall that happening. Maybe I missed it? I’m sure [you’ll nitpick this somehow](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/08/nyregion/08hate.html). > [@](#): > > The papers do not name the fourth man, but another teenager, Bryan Garaventa, was charged with Mr. Nicoletti in the first attack, on Alie Kamara, a 17-year-old black resident of Staten Island. > > Prosecutors said that Mr. Nicoletti drove the group to the Park Hill neighborhood, which has a large black population, and that the four men got out of the car to assault Mr. Kamara, using a metal pipe and a collapsible police baton. Mr. Kamara said that his attackers shouted “Obama!” No, I guess it’s not technically torture, and we don’t have it on Youtube, so perhaps Mr. Kamara was beat up and “Obama!” wasn’t really shouted. But this all seems like a distinction without a difference to me. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/32 "2017-01-05T18:35:30Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > d’nt do nuffin is a take off of L’il Abner This one gets the sad trombone. Try harder. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/33 "2017-01-05T18:46:05Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I’m sure [you’ll nitpick this somehow](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/08/nyregion/08hate.html). > > No, I guess it’s not technically torture, and we don’t have it on Youtube, so perhaps Mr. Kamara was beat up and “Obama!” wasn’t really shouted. But this all seems like a distinction without a difference to me. Ah you did find something similar. “Your side does it too” seems to be correct then. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/34 "2017-01-05T18:55:11Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Ah you did find something similar. “Your side does it too” seems to be correct then. People who behave this way are not on anybody’s side. They’re fucking assholes and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/35 "2017-01-05T19:08:22Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Ah you did find something similar. “Your side does it too” seems to be correct then. Yeah, both sides have assholes on their side, so when it comes to one side or the other doing something assholish, both sides do it too. The difference here, is that while within hours of this story breaking, all the left leaning people on this board that have weighed in on the situation have condemned it, the right leaning people implied that this was a tarnish against left leaners in general, while not even knowing that they have done exactly the same thing. I see that you have been made aware of the incident, and have not condemned it, and yet still seem to be using the more recent “anti-trump” event as a mark against democrats. So, “your side does it too”, when it comes to condemning violence of your side, is not correct then. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/36 "2017-01-05T19:13:27Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > In this case the “Assholes” we’re not racist , but my posts and me are … Dude, if you wanna make racist remarks, don’t get all butthurt when people call you a racist. If you don’t want to be called a racist, don’t say racist things. You can’t have it both ways. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/37 "2017-01-05T19:13:30Z")
Hate crimes charges brought forward by Chicago PD ( story on Drudge now) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/38 "2017-01-05T19:14:34Z")
I’m going to be very upset unless the US AG investigates this as a Federal hate crime. Loretta Lynch needs to start the investigation now! Then the new AG can decide if there’s grounds to prosecute. If this doesn’t qualify then there’s no real justice in this country. That video is beyond reprehensible. Just sickening. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/39 "2017-01-05T19:14:50Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > People who behave this way are not on anybody’s side. They’re fucking assholes and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/40 "2017-01-05T19:16:01Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Dude, if you wanna make racist remarks, don’t get all butthurt when people call you a racist. If you don’t want to be called a racist, don’t say racist things. You can’t have it both ways. But but what about when kidnappers supporters & parents & family members actually say " My baby d’int do nuffin " like in past cases … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384.md?page=3)