# Anti-Trump protesters stream torture of mentally disabled person on Facebook Live **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384 "2017-01-05T14:02:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/61 "2017-01-05T20:54:35Z")
I’m really not seeing what this horrible incident has to do with the last election. It just seems like four assholes terrorizing and assaulting a mentally challenged weaker individual, the kind of thing that has happened since there were stronger and weaker people. The only thing I can see is one dude yelled “Fuck Donald Trump” and I’m sure none of them particularly like Trump, but this crime seems to be just old fashioned bullying, possibly mixed in with a half assed attempt to ransom money from the poor kid’s relatives. “Fuck Donald Trump” just seems like some random thing to yell, not a real political statement. Did their poor mentally challenged victim even vote for Trump, or even know who Trump is? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/62 "2017-01-05T20:54:41Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > It appears the assailants are indeed being charged with a hate crime. But I’m wondering what the long pause was about. > > How is the bar of proof set, and how do they determine when the bar has been crossed, and when to classify as a hate crime? Do district attorneys gather in a room and debate,\* “Well, he said N-word, so I think that’s a hate crime…” “Nahh, the N-word was only said once, it has to be said three times to count?”\* How long of a pause are we talking here? If it were days, I’d understand the confusion. This was hours. Not even all that many. It’s not even the end of the business day. I imagine that there were some meetings between officials, maybe a few phone calls. Being the time of year it is, I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the people that would make that sort of call are on vacation right now, and needed to be reached. This actually moved much faster than I would have expected. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/63 "2017-01-05T21:00:29Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > I’m really not seeing what this horrible incident has to do with the last election. It just seems like four assholes terrorizing and assaulting a mentally challenged weaker individual, the kind of thing that has happened since there were stronger and weaker people. The only thing I can see is one dude yelled “Fuck Donald Trump” and I’m sure none of them particularly like Trump, but this crime seems to be just old fashioned bullying, possibly mixed in with a half assed attempt to ransom money from the poor kid’s relatives. “Fuck Donald Trump” just seems like some random thing to yell, not a real political statement. Did their poor mentally challenged victim even vote for Trump, or even know who Trump is? Old fashioned bullying in the same way rape is old fashioned dating. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/64 "2017-01-05T21:02:10Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Old fashioned bullying in the same way rape is old fashioned dating. I have no idea what point you are trying to make. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/65 "2017-01-05T21:07:44Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I imagine that there were some meetings between officials, maybe a few phone calls. > This actually moved much faster than I would have expected. I wonder if police forces being aware of the bad rep they have and errors they have made when dealing with Black people, consider their options more carefully than they would with members of another group. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/66 "2017-01-05T21:15:37Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > It is the republicans who threaten the safety and security of minorities, so there is going to be a reaction to that by those threatened minorities. And it is less about republicans, and more about conservatism in general. The minorities in the country have been oppressed in the past, and in many ways are oppressed now. Conservatives, by definition, don’t want change, and therefore, will push for policies that continue to run the system the way it is now, in a way that causes the minority populations to feel oppressed. Wow!!! Conservatism drives minorities to violence…film on Facebook Live. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/67 "2017-01-05T21:23:18Z")
This devolved very quickly from discussing anything specific about the incident to sniping amongst a few posters. Off to the Pit with you. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/68 "2017-01-05T21:51:33Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I hope it isn’t cat juggling videos. That’s horrible stuff! > > Ah, this event was probably a false flag operation anyway. You wait and see! [sarcasm] Wait…is someone juggling cats, or teaching the cats to juggle? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/69 "2017-01-05T22:15:26Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > I saw a press conference this morning where the sheriff (I think it was the sheriff) called this a “prank”. Seriously disturbing. [The PD is on record as being told by the victim that the situation was essentially horseplay. Until the two young women got involved.](http://abc7chicago.com/news/hate-crime-charges-filed-against-4-in-facebook-live-torture-case/1687517/) Seems to me that they’re the disturbed ones. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/70 "2017-01-05T22:24:39Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Off to the Pit with you. “Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven!” -John Milton ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/71 "2017-01-05T22:29:18Z")
Some crazy-ass shit, to be sure, but just because Trump got a passing reference doesn’t mean the story’s about him. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/72 "2017-01-05T22:33:46Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > I have no idea what point you are trying to make. That if a Minority does it it’s peaceful rape .:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/73 "2017-01-05T22:37:51Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > “Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven!” > -John Milton “I’d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. The sinners are much more fun.” -Billy Joel ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/74 "2017-01-05T22:39:33Z")
False flag operation, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/75 "2017-01-05T22:44:02Z")
If Perps lawyers are looking at 30 years minimum will they break out the “Blame the Liberal MSM ZEITGEIST against Trump” and the “BLM frenzy” as motivation for this thus its societies fault not the perps ??? ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/76 "2017-01-05T23:10:53Z")
What’s the poor version of affluenza? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/77 "2017-01-05T23:23:49Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > It appears the assailants are indeed being charged with a hate crime. But I’m wondering what the long pause was about. Just as a point of reference, it was three weeks between Dylan Roof’s arrest, and the filing of hate crime charges. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/78 "2017-01-05T23:40:51Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Just as a point of reference, it was three weeks between Dylan Roof’s arrest, and the filing of hate crime charges. Attack was not posted on FB ? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/79 "2017-01-05T23:41:49Z")
> [@Donpeyote](#): > > If Perps lawyers are looking at 30 years minimum will they break out the “Blame the Liberal MSM ZEITGEIST against Trump” and the “BLM frenzy” as motivation for this thus its societies fault not the perps ??? Is that a question? I recognize the words, but this sentence/question sounds like it was assembled from the bottom of a litterbox. ---
**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/80 "2017-01-05T23:47:05Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Is that a question? I recognize the words, but this sentence/question sounds like it was assembled from the bottom of a litterbox. Exactly where the defense attorneys will draw from … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384.md?page=5)