# Anti-Trump protesters stream torture of mentally disabled person on Facebook Live **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 5, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384 "2017-01-05T14:02:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/81 "2017-01-05T23:57:09Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Is that a question? I recognize the words, but this sentence/question sounds like it was assembled from the bottom of a litterbox. Perhaps under the influence of a certain cactus? ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/82 "2017-01-05T23:59:37Z")
They are “protesters”, now? What the fuck. This was big internet news this morning. The perps are excoriated in so many ways, in so many places, by so many different people, it’s almost heartwarming. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/83 "2017-01-06T00:20:05Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Liberals can not be assholes. The wonderful things I learn on this board. True liberals don’t put sugar on their assholes. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/84 "2017-01-06T01:04:04Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Yeah, but my problem _is_ with prosecuting people for their thoughts, not their actions. Your daughter is walking down the road. A random driver accidentally hits her with their car and now she’s dead. VS. Your daughter is walking down the road. A guy has been following her for weeks without her knowing it. He hates your daughter. He wants her dead. He purposefully hits her with his car and now she’s dead. Either way, your daughter is dead, right? Or is there a difference we want to distinguish in what was the motivation or lack there of in the death of your daughter? Societies have laws to encourage and discourage behaviors. There are benefits to being married in the law. Our society encourages marriage. Our society also wants to discourage negative behavior. Purposefully killing another is bad. Racism is bad. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/85 "2017-01-06T01:04:22Z")
nvm ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/86 "2017-01-06T01:16:23Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Is that a question? I recognize the words, but this sentence/question sounds like it was assembled from the bottom of a litterbox. Here’s a question: is there any way **Donpeyote** and his sackful of rubber cement could fuck off back to wherever they were during his gracious 10-year hiatus? It would make a sizable dent in the rising tide of incoherent wingnut keyboard diarrhea that’s been soiling the board since Anuslips Donnie pulled off the con of the millennium, and could even make a few people marginally happier for a short time. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/87 "2017-01-06T01:35:57Z")
So we’ve now got several proven incidents of hate crimes or harassment involving anti-Trump activists, and still zero such proven incidents by Trump supporters(unless you count middle school kids chanting “Build the wall”, which sounds more like policy advocacy to me). Boy, those Trump supporters CNN has been chronicling sure are good at avoiding cameras and people with cell phones, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/88 "2017-01-06T01:46:57Z")
This was a despicable act by four idiots. Seriously, how fucking stupid can 4 people be. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/89 "2017-01-06T01:47:30Z")
**Omar** , what moved you to identify these miscreants as “Anti-Trump protesters”. Had they just come from a Trump protest? Were they carrying signs? What brought this identification to mind, outside of a fervent wish to believe it so? ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/90 "2017-01-06T01:50:11Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > So we’ve now got several proven incidents of hate crimes or harassment involving anti-Trump activists, and still zero such proven incidents by Trump supporters(unless you count middle school kids chanting “Build the wall”, which sounds more like policy advocacy to me). > > Boy, those Trump supporters CNN has been chronicling sure are good at avoiding cameras and people with cell phones, aren’t they? [Well, these two guys pleaded guilty:](https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/05/16/brothers-plead-guilty-beating-homeless-immigrant/jpbvoo23yr2sntgKwtQ6KI/story.html) > [@](#): > > It was not enough for two South Boston brothers to urinate on a sleeping homeless man in August. They punched him repeatedly, and beat him with a metal pole. They called him a “wetback.” > > On Monday, the brothers — Scott Leader, 38, and Steven Leader, 30 — pleaded guilty to several felony charges in the unprovoked attack, including assault and battery, intimidation, and civil rights violations. > > The Dorchester attack drew national attention because of its random cruelty and explicit nature. Prosecutors said the men beat 58-year-old Guillermo Rodriguez because they thought he was an illegal immigrant. Scott Leader told police the violence was acceptable because the victim was homeless and Hispanic. > > “Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported,” Scott Leader said after the attack, according to authorities. [Or did you want video?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIvtdArQAFY) > [@](#): > > [‘Trump! Trump! Trump!’ attacker allegedly yelled as he beat Hispanic man, Muslim student](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/14/trump-trump-trump-yells-attacker-as-he-beats-hispanic-man-muslim-student/?utm_term=.cb099bdb6dae) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/91 "2017-01-06T01:50:58Z")
Because they cursed and yelled about Trump on the broadcast. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/92 "2017-01-06T01:53:40Z")
> [@stpauler](#): > > [Well, these two guys pleaded guilty:](https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/05/16/brothers-plead-guilty-beating-homeless-immigrant/jpbvoo23yr2sntgKwtQ6KI/story.html) > > [Or did you want video?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIvtdArQAFY) What I was referring to was CNN reporting a supposed wave of harassment by Trump supporters after he was elected. While I wouldn’t be surprised if you could find an example of something that actually happened, the more brazen and violent incidents have been by those who oppose Trump, and there have been several hoaxes. Which makes sense, the losers are the pissed off ones. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/93 "2017-01-06T01:57:18Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > What I was referring to was CNN reporting a supposed wave of harassment by Trump supporters after he was elected. > > While I wouldn’t be surprised if you could find an example of something that actually happened, the more brazen and violent incidents have been by those who oppose Trump, and there have been several hoaxes. Which makes sense, the losers are the pissed off ones. Shit, I always thought goal posts were heavier than that. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/94 "2017-01-06T01:57:40Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > How long of a pause are we talking here? > > If it were days, I’d understand the confusion. > > This was hours. Not even all that many. It’s not even the end of the business day. > > I imagine that there were some meetings between officials, maybe a few phone calls. Being the time of year it is, I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the people that would make that sort of call are on vacation right now, and needed to be reached. > > This actually moved much faster than I would have expected. Sorry, my bad. I thought days had elapsed. You’re right. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/95 "2017-01-06T01:57:52Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > …(unless you count middle school kids chanting “Build the wall”, which sounds more like policy advocacy to me)… This simply must be included in your _ **Adah** er’s Greatest Hits_ collection! Its refined, crystal **addy**. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/96 "2017-01-06T02:53:30Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Boy, those Trump supporters CNN has been chronicling sure are good at avoiding cameras and people with cell phones, aren’t they? I recall a [church set on fire](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/02/us/mississippi-black-church-vandalized-vote-trump/), with “Vote Trump” painted on it. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/97 "2017-01-06T03:04:06Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I recall a [church set on fire](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/02/us/mississippi-black-church-vandalized-vote-trump/), with “Vote Trump” painted on it. Perfect example there. [An African-American sets the church he usually goes to on fire. Paints “Vote Trump” on it.](http://wreg.com/2016/12/21/mississippi-authorities-make-arrest-in-burning-of-african-american-church-spray-painted-with-vote-trump/) ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/98 "2017-01-06T03:10:05Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > So we’ve now got several proven incidents of hate crimes or harassment involving anti-Trump activists… “Activists” now. And pro-Trump _activists_ would be two guys beating up a homeless Mexican? Why don’t we just say there’s an assortment of felony assaults committed by shitty people who are also incredibly dumb, and leave it there. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/99 "2017-01-06T03:11:41Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Perfect example there. [An African-American sets the church he usually goes to on fire. Paints “Vote Trump” on it.](http://wreg.com/2016/12/21/mississippi-authorities-make-arrest-in-burning-of-african-american-church-spray-painted-with-vote-trump/) Now that is interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/100 "2017-01-06T03:14:32Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Now that is interesting. Isn’t it? Just one of numerous hoax “hate crimes” lately. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384.md?page=6)