# Anti-Trump protesters stream torture of mentally disabled person on Facebook Live

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384 "2017-01-05T14:02:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/101 "2017-01-06T03:42:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Isn’t it? Just one of numerous hoax “hate crimes” lately.

“Numerous”? Well, then, you have a whole bunch _more_, don’t you? I mean, you’re not the kind of guy, show us a single snowflake and imply an avalanche, right? Go ahead, don’t worry about boring us, how about just the top ten, thoroughly vetted stories you’ve got, right at your fingertips…

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/102 "2017-01-06T03:47:45Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Isn’t it? Just one of numerous hoax “hate crimes” lately.

How do you know it’s a hoax? The hoax fairy tell you? Blacks can’t be Trump supporting assholes? Of course the police say they’re not sure it’s political. Cops tend to be Trump supporting assholes too.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/103 "2017-01-06T04:09:59Z")

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To be ruthlessly fair, the subject of the moment was that black guy who set fire to his own church and tried to hoax it on Trump. Don’t ever make me do this again.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/104 "2017-01-06T04:18:47Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> “Numerous”? Well, then, you have a whole bunch _more_, don’t you? I mean, you’re not the kind of guy, show us a single snowflake and imply an avalanche, right? Go ahead, don’t worry about boring us, how about just the top ten, thoroughly vetted stories you’ve got, right at your fingertips…

[Lafayette woman faces criminal charges after falsely claiming Trump supporters robbed her](http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/woman-faces-criminal-charges-after-falsely-claiming-trump-supporters-attacked-her/351046672)

[Police: No official report of ugly racial incident at Delaware gas station](http://www.phillyvoice.com/police-no-official-report-ugly-racial-incident-del-gas-station/)

[She claimed she was attacked by men who yelled ‘Trump’ and grabbed her hijab. Police say she lied.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/12/15/she-claimed-she-was-attacked-by-men-who-yelled-trump-and-grabbed-her-hijab-police-say-she-lied/?utm_term=.cf3962918568)

[Post-election anti-Latino message at Elon U. turns out to be a hoax by a Latino student](http://www.elonnewsnetwork.com/article/2016/11/note-found-whiteboard-kivette-bye-bye-latinos)

[Cops: Man faked ‘KKK’ hate crime, own kidnapping after lighting car on fire](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-fake-hate-crime-arson-20161212-story.html)

[BG police say student lied about politically driven attack](http://www.13abc.com/content/news/BG-police-say-student-lied-about-politically-driven-attack-401814426.html)

[Racism Charges in Bus Incident, and Their Unraveling, Upset University at Albany](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/nyregion/racism-charges-in-bus-incident-and-their-unraveling-upset-u-of-albany.html?_r=0)

[Williams students admit to post-election [hoax KKK] graffiti](http://www.berkshireeagle.com/stories/williams-students-admit-to-post-election-graffiti,489559)

[More fake hate: ‘Harassing, threatening’ notes sent to North Park U. student were bogus](http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/30101/)

[Man admits to faking hate crime in Malden](http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/11/man_admits_to_faking_hate_crime_in_malden)  
there are plenty more.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/105 "2017-01-06T05:05:25Z")

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Some of those are padding, stretching it, but still more than I thought. I’m guessing the reason would be that they are so obscure and minor that I never even heard about them. You, on the other hand, knew about _all_ of them. But then, of course you do.

But what the hell, points.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/106 "2017-01-06T05:32:01Z")

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What makes them “anti-trump protesters” again? I know it wasn’t just because they were shouting shit about trump while torturing someone.

Anybody call for a cite yet? Sorry if I missed it here.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/107 "2017-01-06T05:32:40Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Some of those are padding, stretching it, but still more than I thought. I’m guessing the reason would be that they are so obscure and minor that I never even heard about them. You, on the other hand, knew about _all_ of them. But then, of course you do.
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> But what the hell, points.

These are literally the first 10 I found googling right now. There are lots more.

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/108 "2017-01-06T05:50:04Z")

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> [@Donpeyote](#):
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> Mandatory minimum sentences seem adequate in this case

You misspelled maximum.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/109 "2017-01-06T05:52:58Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Wait…is someone juggling cats, or teaching the cats to juggle?

Juggling cats. [And it’s on youtube.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bGVT4-1DBU)

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/110 "2017-01-06T06:16:45Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> To be ruthlessly fair, the subject of the moment was that black guy who set fire to his own church and tried to hoax it on Trump. Don’t ever make me do this again.

Don’t ever make you do what again?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/111 "2017-01-06T07:26:52Z")

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Oh, like I’m gonna tell _you!_

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/112 "2017-01-06T07:30:59Z")

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I wouldn’t have a problem believing there are hundreds of Americans stupid enough to try to blame Trump for their own misbehavior. After all, _millions_ of Americans were stupid enough to vote for him.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/113 "2017-01-06T07:41:27Z")

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Oh for fuck’s sake! These are four assholes who kidnapped and tortured someone weaker then themselves! Stop making this about politics! Jesus Tap dancing Christ I hate this board sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/114 "2017-01-06T07:50:14Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Oh for fuck’s sake! These are four assholes who kidnapped and tortured someone weaker then themselves! Stop making this about politics! Jesus Tap dancing Christ I hate this board sometimes.

One thing I have learned from the Far Left & Left in last few years is EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL …:smack:

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/115 "2017-01-06T11:42:23Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I will bravely step out of the liberal shell of the Dope and condemn this incident. Bravo, me.

Allow me to also condemn what appears to me as both torture and bullying.

> [@Donpeyote](#):
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> Hate Crimes charges or My Baby d’int do nuffin ???

[Klan-Kiddie alert](https://www.google.ca/search?q=d%27int+do+nuffin&oq=d%27int+do+nuffin&aqs=chrome..69i57.4588745j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8).

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/116 "2017-01-06T12:35:09Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> Your daughter is walking down the road. A random driver accidentally hits her with their car and now she’s dead.

Well that’s an entirely different thing isn’t? No one is talking about an “accident” here.

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> Your daughter is walking down the road. A guy has been following her for weeks without her knowing it. He hates your daughter. He wants her dead. He purposefully hits her with his car and now she’s dead.

So let’s start here. Call the above example A.  
Now example B is exactly the same but the perpetrator also hates black people and your daughter is black.

So Example A - he hates her and wished her harm but no racial motive, Example B has an additional racial motive.

Which should attract a larger sentence and why?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/117 "2017-01-06T12:37:00Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Some of those are padding, stretching it, but still more than I thought. I’m guessing the reason would be that they are so obscure and minor that I never even heard about them. You, on the other hand, knew about _all_ of them. But then, of course you do.
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> But what the hell, points.

But CNN reported many of them despite lack of evidence. And then published other articles decrying “fake news”.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/118 "2017-01-06T12:43:31Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> To be ruthlessly fair, the subject of the moment was that black guy who set fire to his own church and tried to hoax it on Trump. Don’t ever make me do this again.

I wonder if he had a beef with people at church and used “Vote Trump” to remove suspicion.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/119 "2017-01-06T13:29:35Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Well that’s an entirely different thing isn’t? No one is talking about an “accident” here.

And that’s the point.\*\* Darren Garrison \*\*had a problem “with prosecuting people for their thoughts, not their actions”. So, the death of a person should be equal in his mind. The thought behind should be irrelevant according to him, even if it were apparently thoughtless (aka accidental).

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-protesters-stream-torture-of-mentally-disabled-person-on-facebook-live/776384/120 "2017-01-06T13:50:06Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> What’s the poor version of affluenza?

Distemper.

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