# Anti Trump riot in California - Seriously? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 3, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736 "2016-05-03T00:29:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/41 "2016-05-03T18:07:48Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > They aren’t trying to make the USA a part of Ireland. That’s the difference. Which is obvious. Who is trying to make the USA part of Mexico? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/42 "2016-05-03T18:08:59Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > When I don’t vote for whomever the Republicans put up, it will be, in part, because I am attempting to suppress Donald Trump’s freedom of speech. > > (Misunderstanding Freedom Of Speech Fever: Catch It!) If you think politics should devolve into a situation where each side sends out their goons to disrupt and intimidate the other how do you think that will end? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/43 "2016-05-03T18:10:05Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Who is trying to make the USA part of Mexico? Read the cites and look at the images. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/44 "2016-05-03T18:17:26Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > If you think politics should devolve into a situation where each side sends out their goons to disrupt and intimidate the other how do you think that will end? Why do you think its ok for the government to silence certain groups of people (who coincidentally are the ones you don’t agree with)? Otherwise, who are you suggesting stop free citizens from expressing their rights of speech and free association? Protesting has a long tradition in this country, I’d like to hear your justification for why we should outlaw it now. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/45 "2016-05-03T18:19:37Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Throwing rocks and other forms of assault are not free speech. Yes throwing rocks is wrong and those who did should be arrested. Now how about the rest of the protesters that were just there to voice their opinions and were peaceful? You want the government to silence them? Just because you don’t agree with their point of view? Trump is a lightning rod, and many people despise him. You seem to be saying that those people should not be allowed to speak. Is that right? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/46 "2016-05-03T18:24:47Z")
For reference purposes - > [@doorhinge](#): > > It appears that Mexican nationalists were waving the Mexican flag while desperately > trying > to stop the free speech of a U.S. presidential candidate in the U.S.A… Immigration laws and free speech must not matter to these rioting protestors. > > The protestors chose to riot as their way of making U.S. voters aware of what will happen if the U.S. voters do not accept the Mexican nationalist’s presidential choice as their own. > [@Airbeck](#): > > The government didn’t stop trump from speaking, so no free speech violation there, and he did in fact speak, so he wasn’t actually stopped by anyone, now was he? > > Also, the protesters have free speech as well, as evidenced by the fact that the government didn’t stop them. Why do you think only Trump enjoys free speech protection? > > You really don’t understand the concept of freedom of speech do you? It doesn’t only apply to the people you like, it applies to everyone, and it only limits the government’s response, not other citizens. Whether you like it or not. While the Mexican nationalist failed to prevent the free speech of a U.S. presidential candidate, that doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to do so. Just as you can try to justify this riot anyway you wish. You’ll have to show me where I said only Trump should enjoy free speech protection. In your spare time, of course. I forgot to mention upthread that I watched the assholes from MSNBC televising LIVE the exit route used by the Secret Service agents when they escorted a U.S. presidential candidate from the building to the waiting cars. How absolutely brilliant. :rolleyes: Showing the rioters, in real time, where the candidate could be found. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/47 "2016-05-03T18:26:51Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Read the cites and look at the images. Are you talking about “Make America Mexican”? Please say no. That’s a joke, a mockery of Trump’s slogan. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/48 "2016-05-03T18:29:09Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > Why do you think its ok for the government to silence certain groups of people (who coincidentally are the ones you don’t agree with)? > > Otherwise, who are you suggesting stop free citizens from expressing their rights of speech and free association? > > Protesting has a long tradition in this country, I’d like to hear your justification for why we should outlaw it now. You’re free to advocate for the violent actions of the Mexican nationalists who were trying, desperately trying, to prevent the free speech of a U.S. presidential candidate inside of the U.S… I guess the system works? ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/49 "2016-05-03T18:32:19Z")
This sort of violent protest only happens at one specific person’s events - and that one specific person is only one who profits from it. What a funny coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/50 "2016-05-03T18:37:38Z")
By the way did anyone else watch that video all the way to the end. If not, the I recommend it. The advertisement for Antrhorplex (including, invading armies of uncivilized African natives, chemtrails, and communists sapping our precious bodily fluids) exemplifies that high degree of journalism one expects from Alex Jones, and is almost wroth sitting through the rest of the claptrap. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/51 "2016-05-03T18:58:55Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > This sort of violent protest only happens at one specific person’s events - and that one specific person is only one who profits from it. What a funny coincidence. Is that the candidate who the Mexican nationalist have decided should not be President of the U.S.? It appears that the Mexican nationalists are willing to resort to violence in the U.S. in order to prevent the free speech of a U.S. presidential candidate. Some people seem to agree with, and advocate for, the violence of Mexican nationalist who are trying to influence/threaten the U.S. election process. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/52 "2016-05-03T19:56:51Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Believe it or not, it’s possible both to be proud of your homeland AND proud of your ancestry. At the same time. Yes but are Irish people and others waving signs that say “Return Amerikkka to Mexico”? is their “Reconquista” movement of Irish? [Image 1](http://media.patriotpost.us/img/ref/reconquista09.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/53 "2016-05-03T19:59:53Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > [New York Times.](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/30/us/donald-trump-rally-protest-costa-mesa.html?) (I burned one of my free views on this. I hope you appreciate it.) > > [ABC News.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/photos/protest-turns-violent-trump-rally-38755999/image-protesters-opposed-republican-presidential-candidate-donald-trump-separated-38757652) > > [CNN.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/politics/donald-trump-protests-republican-convention-california/) > > I’m not going to bother to link to reports from KTLA, The Los Angeles Times, CBS News, Newsweek, KABC, and so on and so forth. I looked at those links and most were way more censored. Ex. No naked breasts and they cut out the worse language or the pictures of protesting children. The CNN one wasnt as bad. ---
**Author:** ![inscrutable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a88e4f/32.png) [@inscrutable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inscrutable)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/54 "2016-05-03T20:04:26Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Is that the candidate who the Mexican nationalist have decided should not be President of the U.S.? It appears that the Mexican nationalists are willing to resort to violence in the U.S. in order to prevent the free speech of a U.S. presidential candidate. Some people seem to agree with, and advocate for, the violence of Mexican nationalist who are trying to influence/threaten the U.S. election process. Would’ve been considered treason not too long ago… ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/55 "2016-05-03T20:28:11Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Yes but are Irish people and others waving signs that say “Return Amerikkka to Mexico”? is their “Reconquista” movement of Irish? Given how North America was never populated by indigenous native Irishmen, I’m going to guess “no” and also think that it’s a dumb comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/56 "2016-05-03T21:19:57Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Is that the candidate who the Mexican nationalist have decided should not be President of the U.S.? It appears that the Mexican nationalists are willing to resort to violence in the U.S. in order to prevent the free speech of a U.S. presidential candidate. Some people seem to agree with, and advocate for, the violence of Mexican nationalist who are trying to influence/threaten the U.S. election process. “Mexican nationalists” - lol. Are you even listening to yourself? Funny how these “Mexican Nationalists” only care about “Mexican Nationalism” when Donald Trump can benefit by pointing at the Scary Mexicans. Funny how nobody else seems to have “Mexican Nationalists” lurking outside their events. Funny how the “Mexican Nationalists” don’t seem to feel any need to convince Cruz or Sanders or Clinton to give the country “back” to Mexico. Funny how it’s only the candidate who kickstarted his campaign talking about Scary Mexicans who now has a Scary Mexican Sideshow outside his events. Funny how all these out-of-control “Mexican Nationalists” peacefully packed up and went home by 11. Funny how it was almost like quitting time. That Donald Trump. He sure is a funny fellow. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/57 "2016-05-03T21:32:50Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I looked at those links and most were way more censored. Ex. No naked breasts and they cut out the worse language or the pictures of protesting children. The CNN one wasnt as bad. Your claim was that mainstream media was not covering it. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/58 "2016-05-03T21:47:51Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Funny how nobody else seems to have “Mexican Nationalists” lurking outside their events. > > Funny how the “Mexican Nationalists” don’t seem to feel any need to convince Cruz or Sanders or Clinton to give the country “back” to Mexico. Why would they? Trump’s the only one who’s dared to say he’ll do something about illegal immigration. Naturally this means he’s a racist and hates brown people. Kind of like how if you condemn anti-police and misogynistic lyrics in rap it means you’re a racist and you hate black people. What is it with the left, where any and all behavior by people in a politically protected group is excused and defended? Trump simply objects to people entering the country illegally. So far as I know this is pretty much the same stance taken by Canada and even European countries, at least until the influx of Muslims from Syria and other points Mid-East. But then again they’ve become a politically protected group too, so there’s that. But I don’t think anyone else can. I do know that as of a few years ago, unless you could prove you have a job waiting that no Frenchman is likely able to do, and/or have a French citizen to guarantee your expenses, and/or are a person of means yourself, you wouldn’t be allowed to emigrate even to France. The fact most of the illegal immigrants to this country are Hispanic does not make Trump a racist. Period. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/59 "2016-05-03T21:57:19Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Why would they? Trump’s the only one who’s dared to say he’ll do something about illegal immigration. > > [snip] Nothing whatsoever is currently being done about illegal immigration? I’d say that’s news to most people. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-trump-riot-in-california-seriously/753736/60 "2016-05-03T22:13:14Z")
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