# Anti-vaxxers are ignorant scumbags that kill children **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 1, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626 "2016-09-01T01:59:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1222 "2024-12-19T19:09:30Z")
Nah, that takes work. He’s fundamentally lazy until/unless he needs to do something. His last several offseasons have shown that pretty clearly. I can see him trying to be a semi-permanent fixture on Pat McAfee’s show, though. Let other people do the actual work and get the attention he so desperately craves by spouting insane conspiracy theories on other people’s channels without doing any more “research” than watching some YouTube videos. That’s pretty much the new American dream, I would think. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1223 "2024-12-19T19:09:49Z")
The future head of HHS thinks that the polio vaccine killed many more people than polio did. This is now mainline conservative thinking. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1224 "2024-12-20T13:57:36Z")
Looks like we’re in for a ride down the slippery slope… > **[Louisiana forbids public health workers from promoting COVID, flu and mpox shots](https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/12/20/nx-s1-5223440/louisiana-ban-public-health-promoting-covid-flu-mpox-vaccines-landry-rfk-jr-anti-vaccine)** > > An NPR investigation found Louisiana health officials told staff to stop promoting vaccines for COVID, flu and mpox, holding flu shot events or otherwise encouraging the public to get those vaccines. _The statement described the move as a shift “away from one-size-fits-all paternalistic guidance” to a stance in which “immunization for any vaccine, along with practices like mask wearing and social distancing, are an individual’s personal choice.”_ _The statement said that the flu vaccine can reduce illness severity and therefore may help high-risk patients — but falsely claimed “the flu vaccine does not prevent one from getting the influenza virus.”_ The ignorance - it burns! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1225 "2024-12-20T15:17:42Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > > [@Odesio](#): > > > > Unfortunately I don’t think the anti-vaxxers will change their mind until children start dying or suffering permanent damage from preventable diseases. > > I disagree. An anti-vaxxer won’t change their mind until _ **THEIR** _ child dies from a preventable disease. Gonna take a long, long time to get all (or even most) to change their mind. Meanwhile, more “people” are going “Hey! they didn’t get vaxxed and didn’t die. Why should I?” Virulent antivaxers won’t change when children (even their own) are harmed or killed by vaccine-preventable diseases. They’ll blame Big Pharma for evildoing that got them to oppose vaccines, or the government for allegedly misleading them or even for creating and spreading the diseases in a plot to sell more vaccines. They’re nutcakes who are not susceptible to reason and evidence. What will change is that a great majority of non-delusional parents who’ve been “fence-sitters” will react to surges in preventable infectious disease by getting their kids vaccinated. It’s a great pity that so many will have to suffer (and this includes the immunosuppressed and vulnerable elderly) before realization dawns, but that’s where we are. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1226 "2024-12-20T17:15:59Z")
I saw a meme yesterday that said something like “What this country needs is an especially deadly Covid variant and an especially effective Covid vaccine.” ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1227 "2024-12-20T22:16:44Z")
Time to start marketing vaccines in Louisiana as “the stuff that the government doesn’t want you to know about” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1228 "2024-12-21T00:15:13Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > > > I wonder what that blowhard is going to do once he’s retired and nobody cares anymore because he no longer throws a ball for a living. > > Are you kidding? He’s a nut who tosses out conspiracy theories. Just do a podcast and/or YouTube/TikTok channel and he’ll make a fortune and probably be even more famous. Or get appointed to run a federal government department. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1229 "2024-12-21T00:42:09Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > conservative thinking This construction is an insult to the word _thinking_. > [@snowthx](#): > > The statement described the move as a shift “away from one-size-fits-all paternalistic guidance” to a stance in which “immunization for any vaccine, along with practices like mask wearing and social distancing, are an individual’s personal choice.” And visiting or moving to or buying stuff from outfits in Louisiana is also a personal choice. > [@needscoffee](#): > > I saw a meme yesterday that said something like “What this country needs is an especially deadly Covid variant and an especially effective Covid vaccine.” Didn’t we already have those? And the stupidity is still with us and still deadly itself. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1230 "2024-12-21T01:02:52Z")
What did that even mean? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1231 "2024-12-21T01:57:52Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Didn’t we already have those? And the stupidity is still with us and still deadly itself. I probably worded it wrong, but the point of it was that Covid wasn’t deadly enough to eliminate all the anti-vaxxers. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1232 "2024-12-21T02:00:28Z")
Yep. Nothing is deadly enough to eliminate those morons. Intelligence may be beautiful, but stupidity is eternal. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1233 "2024-12-21T08:29:55Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > What did that even mean? “If you’re vaccinated against covid, you’re not worth listening to.” ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1234 "2024-12-21T13:17:46Z")
That sort of conspiracy-theorist thinking is a closed system; if you don’t buy into the conspiracy you are part of it and thus your opinion can be rejected. It makes trying to reason with them pretty much futile. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1235 "2024-12-21T19:58:48Z")
> [@JeffB](#): > > “If you’re vaccinated against covid, you’re not worth listening to.” Worse. I’ve had it explained (for some weird version of “explain”) that getting the vaccination means ‘you are now infected with the virus’. AND Your blood is no longer good for transfusions (to anti-vax persons). To play along, point out that the microchips make you smarter and the 5G reception is fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1236 "2024-12-21T20:32:04Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > To play along, point out that the microchips make you smarter and the 5G reception is fantastic. I knew an anti-vaxxer who believed that the covid vaccine made you magnetic. I said, “Absolutely! I got my first shot last week, and walking home took forever. First I got stuck to a light post, but fortunately a semi went by, and I stuck to _it_. Damn, it took me clear to the lake! Luckily, the #66 bus went by, and sticking to that got me home.” She failed to see the humor… ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1237 "2024-12-21T20:35:53Z")
Yeah. Few years ago maganut showed me that a dime stuck to his forehead. I wish it would’ve helped me to pick up spare change. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1238 "2024-12-22T01:46:00Z")
Did you try grabbing his legs and making him use his arms wheelbarrow style? I bet at carnivals you could make a fortune around the Rock-O-Plane ride! ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1239 "2024-12-22T02:47:36Z")
Considering that Louisiana once had a public health officer whose medical license had been REVOKED, this doesn’t surprise me. Her name was Dr. Joia Crear-Perry. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1240 "2024-12-22T15:24:40Z")
License suspended, not revoked. She was a clinical director for the city of New Orleans health department. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1241 "2024-12-29T18:34:30Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > I knew an anti-vaxxer who believed that the covid vaccine made you magnetic. Just hope it turns you into the “antiheroic but generally on the good guy side” Magneto and not the “kill all flatscans” Magneto. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626.md?page=61) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626.md?page=63)